#foswiki 2012-05-04,Fri

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Lynnwoodevening all
can anyone tell me whether ModPerlEngineContrib is necessary to run foswiki with mod_perl?
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pharveyI believe so, yes. [00:04]
Lynnwoodok. thanks so much pharvey [00:04]
pharveynp. Don't forget to use the ApacheConfigGenerator
and there's a few open tasks, which might have useful info, if you get stuck.
pharvey prefers FastCGI & mod_fcgid
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Lynnwoodreally? why? [00:05]
jomojomo prefers Starman (PSGI) [00:06]
pharveyoh, I'm sure I'd prefer PSGI too :)
fcgid seems more robust.
mod_perl has benefits if your processes need to share memory with each other, but we don't do that in Foswiki.
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Lynnwoodhmmm.
ok
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pharveybut don't let me stop you from using mod_perl. If it works, it works well [00:07]
jomojomo running FW in production with Starman more than half year… (the only flaw now is the JsonRpcAddon) - everything others "just works" - and pretty fast... [00:10]
pharveyawesome [00:14]
jomoi know, it is not "oficially supprted" :) - but works... [00:16]
pharveyI think mod_perl is nice if you want to hook into apache's lower level C APIs (Eg. WebDAVContrib shares Foswiki's sense of users, access controls, resources, etc. with apache)
on the other hand, there's probably a PSGI module to do most of the things you'd want to do with apache + mod_perl :)
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gac410howdy pharvey, I'm back online as long as my cell phone cooperates. I asked a wysiwyg question earlier. I think I know the answer. Add a TMLlink class to the link and then modify _handleA in Node.pm to force a TML link if that class is applied.
I'm half way there. Then have to fix all the unit tests it breaks :(
gac410 wonders if TMLlink only applied for [[blah]] style links. Should I force the link text back in as the href.
Otherwise editing a [[blah]] rendered as <a href=blah>blah</a> I need to decide which one to preserve, or preserve both possibly leading to [[Main.WebHome]] linking to [[Sandbox.SomeOtherTopic]]
All this to fix Item11815 because TMCE is broken on WebKit based browsers
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item11815 [ Item11815: Bulleted list - continue with normal - bug in the WYSIWYG ] [01:55]
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gac410Getting somewhere now! 16 wysiwyg tests failing - up from 12. [02:38]
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pharvey, another question for you. We escape and protect <nop>WikiWord links. But don't escape !WikiWord links. So even though WikiWord is not linking, Wysiwyg shows it as linking. I assume that's a bug too? [02:54]
Probably a question for CDot, but why on earth does Render.pm treat leading ! as preventing wikiword, but TML2HTML for wysiwyg does not. [02:59]
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pharveygac410: just a shortcoming that nobody has addressed, AFAIK. [03:27]
gac410Ah... great. That one seems to be a simple fix. But there is another really difficult one. I'm really stumped. It appears to have been a sub-optimal workaround.
We protect macros %MAINWEB% for example, using a <span> But can't do that inside a [[link]] esp. if it's converted to an href.
The current code cheats. It does [[bla][linktext]] before %MACRO% proection, and [[WikiWord]] after. yeesh.
so search format=[[$topic]] is clean in current code, where as [[$topic][$webtopic]] would not be from what I can tell.
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maybe I'll sleep on it and hope for inspiration. It's probably easier to figure out if a %TAG% is inside a link, and *not* protect is, vs. figuring out that a squab link is inside some long multi-line macro. [03:41]
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jomohi, anyone has installed MetaDataPlugin and have different browser as Firefox? [11:11]
BabarBabar tried it once, and thank God there was an aternative :)
oh right... is Micha around or still on holidays?
I wanted to commit the perltidy of everything, but he's going to kill me for it, so...
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jomoBabar: you tried once MetaDataPlugin or another browser? ;) [11:13]
Babarguess :)
Babar uses chrome for FB :)
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jomoI'm installed MetaDataPlugin for testing JsonRpcContrib - unfortunately doesn't works for me… is here another EASY way how to test JsonRpcContrib?
Babar: youre cleaning a codebase -so here is one small error: defined(%hash) is deprecated at /SITE/fw/Foswiki-1.1.5/lib/SOAP/Lite.pm line 465. ;)
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Babarwhat? We got rid of all of those already! [11:21]
jomoline 2203 too [11:21]
Babarah right, but it's a plugin
another of Micha's
491: unless ( defined %{"$protocol_class\::Client::"}
this doesn't make any sense to me...
let's check the code. But as it's Micha's...
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jomoprobably nobody use Soap::Lite - i'm only istalled it for testing my installation compatibility with plugins.. [11:24]
Babarah no, it's just SOAP::Lite
latest version fixes it using Class::Inspector
so open a bug item for Micha, for SoapPlugin, and tell him to upgrade to the latest SOAP::Lite
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jomoBabar: everytime i want write your nick, writing "Barbar"… (probably i'm playing too much World of warcraft).. ;) [11:35]
Babarand not watching enough cartoons :p [11:40]
jomoheh - really don't know babar - just now found it as some elephant…
seen MichaelDaum
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FoswikiBotMichaelDaum was last seen in #foswiki 6 days 21 hours ago saying "just the <input ... /> field". [11:49]
jomoMicha switched to another wiki SW? :) [11:50]
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jomo LOL [12:15]
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GithubBot[foswiki] foswiki pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/b8h9jw
[foswiki/master] Item11808: perltidy them all, so people are not accidentally impacted by the new enforced rule -- Sorry Micha, could not find a way to define specific values within the file - OlivierRaginel
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item11808 [ Item11808: perltidy check on checkin ] [13:33]
ArthurClemensText indenting does not work in the editor. Is this a known bug?
there is a bug report http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item9038 - pointing to another http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item2516 - ok patch is in there
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FoswikiBot[ Item2516: Add new TML syntax to support indented paragraphs ] [13:46]
GithubBot[foswiki] foswiki pushed 1 new commit to Release01x01: http://git.io/NqcaXg
[foswiki/Release01x01] Item11808: perltidy them all, so people are not accidentally impacted by the new enforced rule - OlivierRaginel
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joeliohi, strange issue with the dphighligher plugin.. every save removes all the linefeed / carriage returns
making the code look unreadable
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ArthurClemensif {AllowLoginName} is set to aclemens, I see that WIKIUSERNAME is Main.aclemens, which is not a wiki word of course. How should this be resolved?
The explanation in configure is: "If you want users to be able to use a login ID other than their wikiname, you need to turn this on. It controls whether the 'LoginName' box appears during the user registration process, and is used to tell the User Mapping module whether to map login names to wikinames or not (if it supports mappings, that is)."
so I need to have the user mapper map this to a wiki page?
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jomoany idea how to find the source code where this error caused? **T** could not be 'use'd: Can't locate Foswiki/Configure/Types/T.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /SITE/fw/Foswiki-1.1.5/lib … couple of paths deleted…) at (eval 561) line 2.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 561) line 2.
it is "somewhere" in the BEGIN block, but how to find where?
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ArthurClemensjomo: types are specified in Config.spec files
it might be that a spec file has an error
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jomoyes, but this is apparently a bug - type "T" sure does'nt specified... [14:36]
ArthurClemensI would assume that the code in Type.pm does a check
Foswiki::Configure::Type that is
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FoswikiBothttp://trunk.foswiki.org/System/PerlDoc?module=Foswiki::Configure::Type [14:37]
jomogoing to check it - ty [14:38]
ArthurClemenshmm, Google indexes TWiki web from f.o,. [14:46]
CDotArthurClemens: the best source of info about the user mapper comes from SvenDowideit - if you can catch him [14:55]
BabarArthurClemens: yeah, I already raised this issue, and wanted to ditch TCP on f.o, but... [14:59]

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