#foswiki 2012-09-15,Sat

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sneexhow can i get FSBrowserPlugin ? [12:47]
kip3fhttp://foswiki.org/System/InstallationGuidePart2#Extensions [12:52]
flexibeastsneex: i'm the author of that extension; you should just be able to install it like any other (i.e. via the Foswiki 'configure' interface), so please let me know if it doesn't work! [12:53]
sneexok; still learning stuff :) [12:55]
flexibeastFair enough. :-) [12:56]
kip3fsneex: easiest way is to (1) use configure page to download & install; (2) enable plugin in configure page [13:00]
sneexk [13:00]
kip3fbut if you want to do other things like install from the command-line
you can do that
[13:00]
sneexyes, but its not aparent how to get it -- I use Debian so of couse I can apt-get but just looking around [13:02]
kip3foh debian [13:02]
sneexlol [13:02]
kip3f"Caution: Users of the debian .deb packages should only use the debian tools when installing extensions." [13:02]
sneexsay I was rhel -- configure is how I would get it?
sneex I am many OSes :P
could be OpenBSD tomorrow
[13:02]
laenGood choice. [13:03]
sneexlol [13:03]
kip3fif your webserver can download from foswiki.org, then the easiest option is to install them from the configure web page
I don't know what are the consequences of doing that on debian
[13:04]
sneexmy main system is behind a vpn and can get nothing :P [13:05]
kip3fyou can always download the tarball and extract it into your foswiki install [13:05]
sneexI got two tests and a main; the main cant reach anyone of the Net
yes, but based upon http://foswiki.org/Extensions/FSBrowserPlugin there is no indication of how to get tarball
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kip3fthe attachments at the bottom
are
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sneex>< I am blind Thank you :) [13:07]
kip3f:-)
8-)
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sneexsneex its like Duh :P
lol
I am going to see about changing this plugin to do my bidding ... will the plaugin be upset by a lot of changes?
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kip3fsneex: obviously you can do as you like, on your own server. At the bottom of the plugin webpage you can see ModificationPolicy CoordinateWithAuthor
=flexibeast
that's only relevant if you want to contribute your code changes
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sneexyeah, but I want to teach foswiki how to do my systems management for me ... Im lazy
I am old and slow and I need a faster mechanim to help me :)
I'll pick apart some plugin and see what they say :) Thx :)
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kip3ftake a look at EmptyPlugin
it's there for didactic purposes
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sneexI am ... it looks empty; I learned more from the foswiki.org site [13:14]
kip3fit's the docs for the available callbacks [13:15]
sneexIm not a programmer by any means and I must lean on work started to get to a goal; but Im pretty good and picking things apart and reassembling then to do what I want [13:16]
kip3fok. what are you trying to accomplish? [13:16]
flexibeastsneex: i'm happy to consider incorporating patches into that plugin, if i think they strike a good balance between generality and keeping the plugin focused. At the moment it only does as much as i needed it to for my particular use-case. [13:17]
sneexI have hundreds of servers ... I want foswiki to get an idea of what they all have and auto document for me ... thats a starts ... many other things later [13:17]
flexibeastAh. Well, don't you already use something like Puppet for multiple server management? [13:18]
sneexyeah, we looked at Puppet and other things but the guys here have issues and I hobbled something together on Debian/Apache and Python/Perl I'll figure something .. just looking around. [13:21]
flexibeast*nod* [13:21]
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sneexsneex let me leave here before I am banned here too :) Cya [14:19]
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release_dudeHi, for preparing a Debian package I need to know where the sources for some JS files are kept by the Foswiki project
user-manual/rsrc/System/JSTreeContrib/jquery.jstree.js
user-manual/rsrc/System/JQueryPlugin/plugins/foswiki/jquery.foswiki.js
user-manual/rsrc/System/PatternSkin/pattern.js
user-manual/rsrc/System/JavascriptFiles/foswikiForm.js
user-manual/rsrc/System/JavascriptFiles/foswikiString.js
user-manual/rsrc/System/JavascriptFiles/foswikiPref.js
please forget about the user-manual part but observe all JS files
Debian tells me that those are some sort of cleaned up files
and they want to know where the original reside
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gac410All the attachments are in pub/... so pub/System/JSTreeContrib/jquery.jstree.js Though, are you working from an installed tarball, or svn. [14:31]
release_dudeinstalled tarball
I have all the js files on disk
but the source for those "Cleaned up" js files is what I am looking for
[14:31]
gac410Our build script will use the uncompressed files in the svn tree, and compress them for the tarball. So the versions in the tarball will be compressed. [14:32]
release_dudeI was told in the released js files all comments are removed etc
so there supposedly is some original to these files
[14:32]
gac410I'm not sure what the actual changes are. We run it through one of the standard minifiers, don't recall which one. [14:33]
release_dudeAh I see [14:33]
gac410SvenDowideit builds our debian packages. [14:33]
release_dudeso you are saying that in svn the originals reside ?
I would help a great deal if someone could name the standard minifier
[14:33]
gac410yes. But I don't think you should need them. I'm pretty sure Sven told me he packages from the tarball as well.
so by they they are already compressed, etc.
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release_dudethe Debian packages are not official Debian packages , correct ? [14:35]
gac410Right, they are in his own repo. He also builds all the extensions as well as separate debs. [14:35]
release_dudeIf there was an attempt to turn it into a proper Debian package then Debian would ask for the source of those cleaned up files as well
It is their rules. I don't make them.
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gac410Our Foswiki:Development/BuildingARelease has the instructions we use to build the tarballs from svn. [14:36]
FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Development/BuildingARelease [ BuildingARelease ] [14:36]
release_dudeThanks , will go look there. [14:36]
gac410I'm one of the release managers for the tarball. Sven does the .deb and .rpm, and iirc, there is someone else who was building some debs.
I think the tools Sven uses are also in svn. I'll go look
Hm. The core/tools/pkg directory has a bunch of .deb builder scripts.s (not in tarball). but not Svens. DrakeDiedrich, though I have not seen him around in quite a while.
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release_dudethanks for your help. I will see what I can find [14:40]
gac410SvenDowideit is in Australia, so not a good time to contact him I don't think. If he sees your q's he may respond. [14:40]

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