#foswiki 2012-10-28,Sun

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gac410Any concerns about revealing if foswiki is running under Mod_perl? Configure documents that admin should visit System/WebHome for indication that mod_perl is being used.
But, System.WebHome doesn't have anything to display Mod_PERL information.
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flexibeastOnly thing that comes to mind is adding a layer of security by obscurity .... but if one is trying to attack a FW install, mod_perl exploits would be an obvious thing to try. [00:52]
gac410yeah. I was thinking instead of adding a "context" that is set based upon the engine, so that plugins or skins could easily determine the engine. [00:56]
GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to Release01x01: http://git.io/LKTSxQ
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gac410In any event, it appears that the %ENV macro can access the state of MOD_PERL, so it works only for Mod_Perl. nothing for fastcgi, etc. [01:02]
GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/11PkQQ
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gac410SvenDowideit: Babar: UNIVERSAL docs say $is_io = $fd->isa("IO::Handle"); ... but never do this! $is_io = UNIVERSAL::isa($fd, "IO::Handle");
Our code is filled with the old style ::isa( class, 'name') 92 places in core. Should that be "modernized" for 1.2?
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 2 new commits to Release01x01: http://git.io/ZY88FA
foswiki/Release01x01 ad5f311 ArthurClemens: Item11746: search example for grabbing the entire row for each hit...
foswiki/Release01x01 ee15502 ArthurClemens: Item11746: little bit of markup cleaning...
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/7CpWtw
foswiki/master 527c01a ArthurClemens: Item9693: search example for grabbing the entire row for each hit...
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item9693 [ Item9693: Documentation updates for Foswiki 2.0 ] [01:29]
gac410Hi ArthurClemens ... I fixed my system and got hinted fonts working great. Temporarily reverted your Arial change to see Helvetia. Looks better, but still the characters seem really "thin" and a bit more difficult to read.' [01:31]
ArthurClemensso arial works better for you
let's keep it like that
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gac410yes, I think it's a bit easier to read. [01:32]
ArthurClemensthe difference in type is not that big, for smaller texts
except for typography purists
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gac410I'm definitely not a purist. But for my very small text, the lines of the characters are very thin - one pixel maybe. Still might be my system. [01:34]
ArthurClemensI have increased the font size, you should be seeing 14px Arial instead of 13px [01:34]
gac410I'll svn up.
not a big difference
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ArthurClemensdo you know other sites where the texts are better? [01:38]
gac410I've not really been paying attention. I just noticed the change when the text got harder to read. [01:38]
ArthurClemensit should be back to normal, or something is wrong
let me know if you find a site with better readability so we have something to compare
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gac410wikipedia uses sans-serif 14.4 for doc text. Slashdot uses Arial 13px Foswiki Arial, 14px [01:43]
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/QMS6cA
foswiki/master 1878092 GeorgeClark: Item11746: Configure claims WebHome shows Mod Perl...
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to Release01x01: http://git.io/LTNfUA
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vc4AHA
foswiki/master 69d659d GeorgeClark: Item11746: Fixup manifest issues...
foswiki/master cb58ecc TimotheLitt: Item12130: Add checker to MANIFEST...
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Babargac410: no! wrt UNIVERSAL::isa($fd,...) vs $fd->isa(...), the MAIN difference is that, if $fd is undef, the former works, whereas the latter crashes, which is why we always use the former. So unless you want to ensure it's never undef'ed, you have to leave it like this. [08:11]
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seepaulGetting exec failed: No such file or directory at /srv/..../lib/Foswiki/Sandbox.pm line 471 while trying to run LatexModePlugin.. Pls help [12:53]
fixed [13:07]
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gac410Babar, Thanks. The docs were not clear about the usefulness of the old version. Interesting that it's so adamant that the old form should not be used. [13:39]
Babarthe problem with the old form is that it will not call any overwritten isa method [13:41]
gac410Yeah. Timothe explained that to me in an email. But didn't note the downside of the ->isa version.
I guess it's pretty obvious though now looking at it.
We need another FeatureProposal category. Maybe "NeedsDeveloper" or "WishList" to separate out the ones actually under investigation by a developer from the "WouldintItBeNice" proposals.
Would also be nice to consider splitting the "Remove User" functionality out from AntiWikiSpamPlugin and making it part of Foswiki core.
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Babartrue [13:54]
gac410It's pretty well proven as an extension now. At least the remove user part. I use it on f.o pretty regularly
Already out there as Foswiki:Development/OneStepUserDeletion Maybe I ought to put a date on it and see if SvenGatekeeper will let it slip into 1.2
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Development/OneStepUserDeletion [ OneStepUserDeletion ] [13:56]
gac410:P I've put a date on it and marked it for 1.2. Let's see if SvenDowideit lets it slip by. :D
Oh, and ArthurClemens the save/cancel/... buttons on trunk jump around a bit when you hover over them. There is a outline of the button that disappears on hover.
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ArthurClemensyou mean on the edit page? [13:59]
gac410yes. [14:00]
ArthurClemensthere is a fix that MichaelDaum need to agree on [14:00]
gac410okay. np. just point it out incase you didn't notice. [14:00]
ArthurClemenshttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12192
because it is the CSS of NatEditPlugin
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gac410okay. Thanks Arthur. [14:01]
GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/bC5cew
foswiki/master 51b74c3 ArthurClemens: Item12092: more updated tests for new link format...
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fireman_biffHi, I'm checking out foswiki for the first time (1.1.15). When I use tinymce to mark text as <verbatim> the "jQuery chili" menu item in the context menu only lets me choose tml, html or js. Any idea why the complete list isn't there? (the topic about chili shows that php, sql etc are all avaiable) [16:46]
foswiki_irc0Hello all I have a quick question how do I create a new web and or sub web? [16:51]
jastfoswiki_irc0: go to http://yoursite/.../Newwebname for a link to the right page [16:52]
foswiki_irc0Not forsure what you mean. I wish to create one from the beginning and or remove one? I can't seem to find any documention [16:54]
jastyes, just go to the URL the new web would have. you'll get an error message. the error message has a link to the page where you can actually create the eb.
*web.
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fireman_bifffoswiki_irc0: go to the System web and click on ManagingWebs in the menu [16:57]
foswiki_irc0thank you guys. [16:58]
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fireman_biffWhen I use tinymce to mark text as <verbatim> the "jQuery chili" menu item in the context menu only lets me choose tml, html or js. Any idea why the complete list isn't there? (the topic about chili shows that php, sql etc are all avaiable) [17:54]
gac410The list is coded explicitly in TinyMCEPlugin. Probably an oversight. editor_plugin_src.js around line 503
ed.plugins.foswikibuttons.recipe_names = ['tml', 'html', 'js'];
Please open a task and we'll try to get it fixed for 1.1.6 / 1.2 Thanks
cool. I didn't even know about that context menu.
confirmed that adding it to the list in that file adds it to the menu.
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fireman_biffthanks gac410, that fixes it for me
is this a bug in the engine or an extension?
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gac410Extension, Component TinyMCEPlugin
Please set it to "WaitingFor" GeorgeClark and I'll make sure it gets into the next release. Thanks!
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fireman_biffalright, done [18:47]
gac410Thanks fireman_biff
ArthurClemens: If you deprecate EDITBOXSTYLE, EDITBOXWIDTH and EDITBOXHEIGHT how can user control edit box size in their user topic.. I use it
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ArthurClemensgac410: I think the only setting that works is EDITBOXHEIGHT [18:55]
gac410okay. It's been a long since I futzed with these, but I recall wanting to control how much vertical hight the edit box occupied. [18:56]
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fireman_biffcan i use %CALC% to get the value of the cell immediately to the left? [19:04]
gac410yes. [19:04]
fireman_biffoops, i got it working
just made a typo
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gac410:) [19:05]
fireman_biffbut I'm using this: %CALC{"$T(R$ROW():C3)"}%
is there a way to not have the 3 hardcoded?
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gac410$COLUMN( -1 )
http://foswiki.org/System/SpreadSheetPlugin#COLUMN_40_offset_41_45_45_current_column_number
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fireman_biffcool, thanks [19:08]
ArthurClemensI have removed EDITBOXHEIGHT [19:11]
gac410Thanks ArthurClemens. (I'm assuming that is acceptable... I don't want to have too much influence here. Probably not all that important, but I didn't think editing css is the way for mere mortals :) [19:18]
ArthurClemensI agree [19:18]
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gac410Item12201 btw has some suggested TMCE ui changes for highlighting. I can implement ... Renaming the menu to remove and html code from the choices makes sense to me. [19:20]
FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12201 [ Item12201: TinyMCE does not list all JQueryChili classes ] [19:20]
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fireman_biffI would like to categorize/tag some of my topics, and have those topics appear alphabetically on my main web's home page. Can anybody point me in the right direction? [20:02]
ArthurClemensfireman_biff: have you tried TagMePlugin? [20:09]
fireman_biffArthurClemens: I'll check it out, thanks [20:12]
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 2 new commits to Release01x01: http://git.io/NuPRVA
foswiki/Release01x01 0035d3a ArthurClemens: Item12192: move jqbutton styles to jquery-ui...
foswiki/Release01x01 e43f5e2 ArthurClemens: Item12192: set name of jquery-ui theme for PatternSkin...
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/bewaYQ
foswiki/master fa3891f ArthurClemens: Item12192: move jqbutton styles to jquery-ui...
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gac410gac410 is utterly baffled by Item12084. I suspect a store issue is causing CGI to close / loose track of temporary files. [23:45]
FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12084 [ Item12084: Corrupted WikiUsers topic combined with AllowLoginName enabled breaks Upload. ] [23:45]

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