#foswiki 2013-01-03,Thu

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MyqHappy new year all. [03:28]
gac410Happy New Year Myq [03:28]
Myqhi gac410
do you use git by chance?
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gac410Sorry Myq - I'm on a cell phone connection - keeps dropping,. [03:32]
Myqah, no worries. nothing critical. i'll ask someone else later :) [03:32]
gac410Yes I use Git [03:32]
MyqI'm a git user and don't know much svn, so I just wanted to ask about submitting pull requests, but that doesn't seem to be the svn way.
it's nothing critical though. I'll wait until someone else comes online.
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gac410I use "git svn" for Foswiki. To checkin, I commit the change to git, and then do "git svn dcommit" to push the commit into svn.
Foswiki:Development/HowToUseGit
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Development/HowToUseGit [ HowToUseGit ] [03:36]
MyqYeah, I read that, but it seems like you just push your changes directly to trunk??? No approval process or anything (I already have svn access)
I've got git svn and cloned already
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gac410Correct. If you've been given commit access, you have access. We don't have a pull / approval model. If you are trusted, you are trusted. :) [03:40]
MyqErm, I don't trust myself yet :P [03:40]
gac410Of course we will keep an eye on the commits that pass by, but the process seems to work fine. [03:41]
MyqCan I push to the github version of foswiki? Or is it readonly? [03:41]
gac410hm. Not sure about that. I don't believe github syncs back into foswiki. [03:41]
MyqI saw the *scratch* branches and thought that you may be using those for pull requests, but they don't look like it [03:42]
gac410no, they are not used much. Sometimes for really radical experimentation. But mostly that's done in separate git repositories on github. [03:42]
MyqOk, well, I'll have a go. I'm just going to add a little content to begin with, so no chance of really breaking anything [03:43]
gac410Thats how most start. I still remember being there I guess. :) Extensions, small checkins, eventually you get sucked into more involved work. :) [03:44]
Myqha, ok. [03:44]
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MartinKaufmannHi there! Happy new year to all of you!
After upgrading to 1.1.6 I've strange buttons in the edit window. They change size when hovering over them.
Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/SYCHw.png
I guess it's a CSS issue but can't find the cause.
Btw, I'm using NatEditPlugin and PatternSkin.
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jastSKIN pref is set to "natedit, pattern"? [11:18]
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MartinKaufmannjast: SKIN = natedit, tagme, myskin, pattern. We added a few changes to *.myskin.tmpl.
Removing myskin doesn't help either.
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/OOuCAg
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12180 [ Item12180: Implementation for AJAXOnDemandCheckersForConfigure ] [13:46]
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LavrHi Guys. Just tried to upgrade the Motorola installation to 1.1.6
And that sucks. I get
Can't locate version.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /var/www/foswikiexp/lib . /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /var/www/foswikiexp/lib/CPAN/lib/arch /var/www/foswikiexp/lib/CPAN/lib/5.8.8/
WTF is this change with version all about and did anyone test it in Perl 5.8?
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jastif anyone is feeling like testing the new SafeWikiPlugin, let me know and I'll upload my stuff
Lavr: new dependency for perl pre 5.10.1 is documented in http://foswiki.org/System/ReleaseNotes01x01
direct link: http://foswiki.org/System/ReleaseNotes01x01#Module_version_strings_have_been_changed
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LavrNot for a patch release. That should be for 1.2 and forward.
And next hurdle Error: no such theme PatternSkinTheme
We are not supposed to make this kind of changes in patch releases.
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jastI hate to point fingers, but at least I don't have to point at myself :) [14:34]
LavrI got the version problem fixed by installing a CPAN lib called version
Now I need to find out how to get my skin back.
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jastI haven't seen that error yet...
it's not like PatternSkin isn't included in the 1.1.6 release tarball
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LavrUntil last release you could select a PatternSkinTheme which was not default. Someone removed this theme. One difference is the height of the WebTopBar [14:36]
jasthmm, never noticed anything like that. then again, our wikis use a custom skin anyway [14:37]
LavrSo now my WebTopBar is too tall and I see the error message. [14:37]
jastbriefly looking at the tarball, it looks like it was renamed to PatternSkinTheme2009
no idea why
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LavrBecause people do not THINK when they rename things
I'll have to spank my good friend Arthur again I guess :-)
Maybe that that is why he does it? Maybe he likes spanking?
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jastI wouldn't know [14:42]
LavrStrange I have in SitePreferences PATTERNSKIN_THEME_VARIANT = /foswiki/pub/System/PatternSkinTheme2009/variant_twiki.css. So this comes from somewhere else. [14:43]
jastoh, that's a JQueryPlugin thing
might be sufficient to switch the JQueryPlugin theme in /bin/configure
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LavrThat was it. [14:51]
jasthmm, actually PatternSkinTheme still exists in the right place
try switching back to it now... chances are the config.spec changes hadn't been picked up by /bin/configure yet
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LavrWhen I added 2009 in the JQ plugin setting it worked. [14:52]
jastthe spec mechanism is a bit of an unholy mess IMO
yeah, but the pattern theme for JQP was moved out of JQP and into PatternSkin between 1.1.5 and 1.1.6
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LavrI had never seen we had a setting for JQ plugin before. [14:52]
jastas part of that change, the spec files would have updated the JQ setting, if /bin/configure had actually saved anything
at least that's my rough analysis
back to work! :)
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LavrYou are right. If I set it back to the default it also works so the JQ stuff is probably no different when you use the 2009 theme.
A bit nasty change IMHO.
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jastthe 2009 is actually an additional dir. the original PatternSkinTheme still exists.
it's just that the JQP part moved there, too
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MartinKaufmannThat's documented here: http://foswiki.org/Download/FoswikiRelease01x01x06#New_setting_needed_for_PatternSkin [14:56]
jastthe version.pm dependency for pre-5.10.1 is missing in those instructions [14:57]
LavrHmm. I had only read the part of the release note until the security upgrade stuff. [14:58]
jastI guess it's a bit questionable that this happened within 01x01
I can understand the decision to include the version.pm change, though, since we do want to migrate all the extensions over to the new format
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LavrIs version.pm pure perl? [15:00]
jastlooks like it... [15:01]
LavrShould have been included in the Foswiki CPAN then to avoid the trap I went into. It cost me an hour to figure out. First time in years I could not upgrade Foswiki in 5 minutes. with a patch release [15:02]
jastI think there was discussion about that... don't remember the specifics [15:02]
LavrI just tried setting Set PATTERNSKIN_JQUERY_THEME = PatternSkinTheme2009. That fails. It has to be PatternSkinTheme even though I use 2009
I think I will be better off spending 0.5 hour on redoing my logos stuff in the top bar because that 2009 scheme will haunt me. I try to run my Foswiki as default as possible but the top bar has to follow some corporate ID guidelines
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The pattern skin has changed dramatically in 1.1.6. Fonts are MUCH bigger.
That is too big an upgrade to do as patch release. I give up on that for now. Many topics are goofed because of skin changes. Fonts are bigger. Tables are alligned differently.
Links to new topics has changed. That kind of changes requires training of users.
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MartinKaufmannWhat is the recommended way of storing localisation strings (to be used in MAKETEXT macros) in order to avoid problems when upgrading? [15:33]
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jastLavr: you can change the format for those links [16:12]
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jhamboHi folks, I'm trying to create a custom user form. I followed the directions and made Main.UserForm. However when I go to Main.NewUserTemplate, and click "Replace Form" down at the bottom, only "System.UserForm" or "none" is visible. I can't select "Main.UserForm". Is there some other step missing from the instructions that I need to do? [19:00]
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jastjhambo: it'll only show the forms listed in the WEBFORMS preference (Main.WebPreferences) [20:47]
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jhambojast many thanks. I suppose that important piece of info should be added to the instructions for making custom user forms. [21:39]

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