#foswiki 2013-05-07,Tue

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jastis that bot new? never noticed it before [09:42]
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pharveyI think it's MichaelDaum's - it's been around for some years, but it takes holidays :) [10:07]
MichaelDaumthis bot is old. it just moved servers. [10:09]
jastdoes it do anything? [10:09]
MichaelDaumWikiRingBot, say hello [10:09]
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jastah, right, that kind of thing [10:10]
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jastso, no duplication at all ;) [10:10]
MichaelDaumMichaelDaum wonders how to get them talking to each other [10:11]
BabarMichaelDaum: and create a loop which will blow up the universe like in wargames? [10:11]
jastbot loops are the best [10:11]
MichaelDaumBabar, I thought that was your job on cern. [10:12]
BabarMichaelDaum: used to be, as I no longer work @cern :) [10:12]
jastso who is in charge of blowing up the universe now? [10:12]
MichaelDaumBabar, ay. so where do you work now? [10:13]
Babarjast: it's been put on hold for 2 years. I might come back then :) [10:13]
jastsplendid [10:13]
BabarBabar thought oauth had been screwed because everybody started implementing their own version, which wasn't compatible with the neighbour's [10:19]
MichaelDaumit was because big players joined the game and forced the show into a different direction without really understanding what it is about
in the end the specs were merely a framework to - yes - implement whatever oauth you want.
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Babargood thing SvenDowideit is asleep. I hope we're not causing him nightmares [10:24]
MichaelDaumhe knows best
http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/
the guy is now working on https://github.com/hueniverse/oz
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jastoauth2 is a completely different story of sadness
twitter screwed up oauth1 in their implementation
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MichaelDaumThanks, Colas, for having mentioned this talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52kFL8zVoM "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People"
I bookmarked it and just finished it right now with a long list of notes I took on the course.
there is some mild evidence that they even referred to our fork from twiki, as these things aren't so common in the overall landscape.
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here's the time offset into the anecdote. it is not a 100% match on the situation september 2008, but very close: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q52kFL8zVoM&t=1362s [12:52]
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ColasMichaelDaum, thanks for the pointer (I just viewed the beginning didnt have time to finish it) [13:27]
MichaelDaumpretty dense. making notes pays off.
wasnt it you who pasted in that url couple of weeks ago?
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