#foswiki 2013-07-10,Wed

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Pro-KoodariHi! How can I use topictemplates system wide [05:01]
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foswiki_irc4hi [08:17]
I'm having some issues with page caching. it seems after a raw edit, i go back to the old page and have to issue refresh=cache to get the new one
hitting "save" in raw edit mode does not seem to refresh cache immediately
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foswiki_irc4the thing gets fixed if I edit Response.pm and replace line 401 with "my @headers = ( -Location => $url."?refresh=cache" );" (foswiki 1.1.8)
i guess still have to check if there are other params already in url
but shouldn't there be another way
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MichaelDaumfoswiki_irc4, that's not how it is supposed to be used. the page cache detects dependencies on its own and invalidates cache entries accordingly.
which foswiki version are you using?
oic
don't bother about page caching in 1.1.8
it has been rewritten from scratch in 1.2.0 (not released yet).
it has been rewritten over a year ago ... shame 1.2.0 never came out since then. :(--
this is actually a disaster
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foswiki_irc4Hi Michael, thanks for the reply. this little fix fixed my issue, I am actually very interested in this caching, but it seems to me most use cases require a refresh=cache at themoment. [10:13]
MichaelDaumexpect the performance to spiral down the longer the cache runs...
if you are very interested in getting this fixed, help pushing people fixing remaining release blockers to get 1.2.0 out asap: http://foswiki.org/Tasks/ReleaseBlocker
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foswiki_irc4hmmm, what is your opinion in cache 1.2.0? maybe smarter on how it handles topics with %SEARCHES and %INCLUDES? [10:16]
MichaelDaum%INCLUDES are fine caching and tracking them among topics.
not so %SEARCH
it does cache %SEARCH don't get me wrong
but you won't get automatic dependency tracking when the result set changes
nother option of course is to hire me to optimize your foswiki ;)
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foswiki_irc4thanks for the chat. i'll see how things go from here. maybe will have to disable caching, which is a real turn-off now :) [10:24]
MichaelDaumfirst make sure you optimize any other component: use fcgi, use lighttpd, use DBCachePlugin, use SolrPlugin [10:25]
foswiki_irc4i saw this DBCachePlugin, i'll try it out, thanks. does it need built-in cache enabled? [10:28]
MichaelDaumnope.
the build-in cache operates on page level
DBCachePlugin does so on store level
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foswiki_irc4and dbcache on searches (?) [10:29]
MichaelDaumthere's the culprit: you need to rewrite a %SEARCH as a %DBQUERY
basically forget about %SEARCH ... it is too slow and clumsy
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foswiki_irc4oh yes... ;)
didn't know about Solr, will check out.
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MichaelDaumsee http://demo.michaeldaumconsulting.com with all knobs switched on [10:35]
foswiki_irc4thanks [10:43]
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jamesd_I am migrating an old foswiki install to a new host, I have copied all the data over, but the new install has only 2 groups instead of the 100 or so in the original system
any idea how to rebuild the group ist
er list
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tsnfoojamesd_: are they local wiki groups, or LDAP groups? [19:50]
jamesd_local i believe [19:54]
tsnfooThen you should just rsync the *Group files in your Main web [19:54]
jamesd_i copied them all over [19:55]
tsnfooHmm..
Let me look at my settings.
Although the power is flickering here, so I may lose connectivity :-(
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jamesd_: no idea why that wouldn't work for you. Did you copy the RCS data as well? Are you using caching of any kind? [20:01]
jamesd_yes al the files, no caching, just installed the stuff with the foswiki debian packages
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