#foswiki 2014-01-09,Thu

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samsa__Is it possible to contents of first heading 1 element in %SEARCH% results? [07:55]
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CDotsamsa__: assuming you are trying to search for ---+ - yes, sure. A conventional regex search can do that for you. [08:27]
samsa__Okay. Thanks. [08:28]
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MichaelDaumMichaelDaum curious what Alvaro has to say about twiki on fosdem2014 https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/wikicomparison/
Anybody going to Brussels?
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CDotnot me
I'm actually more interested in what's going on in the other communities. mediawiki seems to me to be spiralling up it's own backside, but XWiki I know nothing about.
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MichaelDaumnot sure why they left out a few other well performing wiki engine communities [09:08]
CDotpossibly availability of data? [09:14]
jastI don't really see how you can adequately describe a community with a bunch of numbers [09:20]
CDotjast: not a believer in big data, then? [09:30]
MichaelDaumnumbers can't describe a community for sure. they are still interesting, not at least as they tell more about the person who came up with them.
ohloh numbers are interesting ... and flawed
but others failed too ... so
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jastdata is good
it's just very easy to draw invalid conclusions from it
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MichaelDaumfor one take "numbers of checkins" [09:42]
jastand people like their invalid conclusions very much [09:43]
MichaelDaumconclusions come first - data second ;)
think of a metric that could capture the impact of a checkin on the code base in terms of value to the project ... I can't think of one that is able to measure that ...
anyway.
talking about the used metrics is as important as drawing conclusions
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samsa__I like foswiki because I have tried several tools to build service usable by web browser where user could store their knowledge and none before foswiki felt suitable enough.
Only one which came close was dokuwiki.
And I have tried: Lotus Quickr, Sharepoint, Mediawiki, Tikiwiki
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MichaelDaumYep. I met the dokuwikians on the 2010 WikiFest in Berlin. That's about the time they implemented attachments, and later versioning them. [09:48]
samsa__heh
I think I tried dokuwiki first at 2011
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MichaelDaumpretty small commercially backed up community. good reputation in the overall wiki community. [09:49]
samsa__and I forgot to add that I have also tried Zope+Plone :) [09:49]
MichaelDaumdokuwiki is driven by cosmocode, who also run wikimatrix.
yet cosmocode deals with a whole slew of other web systems as well
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samsa__I'm not very familar with the wiki communities. [09:54]
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/CZ5L6w
foswiki/master ee1d28a MichaelDaum: Item12713: bottom bar and top panel color fixes...
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12713 [ Item12713: new default design ] [10:11]
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MichaelDaumhttps://github.com/mlawren/githook-perltidy [10:29]
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CDotMichaelDaum: we might as well ship a version of perltidy with BuildContrib. It's only one file. That way, the arguments cease instantly.
perl build.pl tidy
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MichaelDaumtesting the jitsi video bridge .... come join at https://meet.jit.si/k0z9ovzbvqcfecdi
needs a chrome browser I guess ... ho hum
this is an alternative to google hangouts ...
can be installed on your own server https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiVideobridge
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GithubBot[foswiki] FoswikiBot pushed 1 new commit to Release01x01: http://git.io/XvpCEw
foswiki/Release01x01 733f963 GeorgeClark: Item12675: Resolve taint issue in normalizeWebTopic...
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item12675 [ Item12675: normalizeWebTopicName taints its result if UseLocale=1 ] [22:42]

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