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MichaelDaumwas going to type GnuPlotPlutin ... [10:59]
LeilaMichael - quick question about SOLRSEARCH for Michael [11:00]
MichaelDaumHey Leila :) [11:00]
LeilaMichael - Hi :-)
Would you consider adding a preference setting for the default number of rows to return in SOLRSEARCH?
[11:00]
MichaelDaum%SOLRSEARCH ... or System/SolrSearch ? [11:01]
LeilaThe default setting of 10 keeps messing me up at least when converting searches from SEARCH to SOLRSEARCH
%SOLRSEARCH
[11:01]
MichaelDaumit does have a rows="..." param? [11:01]
LeilaYes, but I almost always have to set it.
Wheras with %SEARCH I didn't have to. No limit by default.
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MichaelDaumyou could set things up using some rows="%SOLRNUMROWS%"
heh. well not limitting search results is pretty dangerous.
[11:02]
LeilaYes, you could get back all indexed items in the site [11:03]
MichaelDaumright [11:03]
LeilaBut still a limit of 10 seems really small... [11:03]
MichaelDaummaybe yes [11:03]
LeilaOf course people may already be relying on that default setting, so that's why I was asking if perhaps we could make it a preference instead of a hard coded number. [11:04]
MichaelDaumpretty sure nobody relies on exactly 10 results being returned. if so, you'd set the rows param to the number you want.
but on the other hand, there are so many defaults all over the place ...
I'll set it to 20, okay?
[11:05]
LeilaWe switched to using %SOLRSEARCH for many of our pages since it is faster. I've been specifying rows=10000 when I do. Maybe too big, but I actually do have searches that return 1000 items or so, and I want to see them all. [11:08]
MichaelDaum1000 or even 10.000 is far too much as a default for sure [11:10]
LeilaFor example, when using %SOLRSEARCH to display child pages I don't know how many I'll get. [11:10]
MichaelDaumbetter use paging for that
yes good example: child pages or backlinks.
[11:10]
LeilaNot really sure how to do that - especially since sort is currently disabled... [11:10]
MichaelDaumon the other hand which human being is able to digest a screen full of 10k backlinks. [11:11]
LeilaOops - sorry - thinking of %LDAP on that one. Solr sort works. [11:13]
MichaelDaumbtw even google shows you 10 results on the first page ... those top 10 you'll always wanna be part of ;)
for them 10 is pretty reasonable given the amount of people that hit the engine
yea %LDAP sort is busted
mostly due to the author of Net::LDAP not considering referrals and stuff
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LeilaJust thinking out loud here, but it would be great to have some easy way to do paged searches - right in %SOLRSEARCH if possible... [11:16]
MichaelDaumlet me dig up the code for that...sec [11:17]
LeilaBy the way, I ran into a problem with indexing. Can't remember if I reported it or not. The issue is that people sometimes copy images directly into pages in the wysiwyg editor. Sometimes these are large images that wind up as Base64 encoded data directly in the topic. This makes for huge topics that take a very long time to index. I patched my version of solrindex so it strips out this
data when indexing. This helps.
I also created a script I can run as a cron job to search for topics with embedded image data, and if the topic is above a certain size it will email me. That way I can convert these images to attachments. When there is lots of embedded image data the topics are really slow to edit so it makes sense to fix them...
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MichaelDaumyes seen that too [11:22]
LeilaMore thinking out loud... it would be great if we could change the WYSIWYG editor to automatically convert such embedded images to attachments. [11:22]
MichaelDaumsolrsearch with pager: http://pastebin.com/xQczyjd7
have you got the regex to strip out inline image data before indexing?
let me fix the pager example ...
http://pastebin.com/y8mRuMnn
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LeilaSure. Let me just go find it...
$text =~ s/;base64,(.*?)"/"/g;
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MichaelDaumwhere do you put it [11:36]
Leilahttp://pastebin.com/RtYLcYGa
Sorry for the delay - no copy paste between my foswiki server and the machine I'm currently typing on...
Thanks for the solr search with pager example. I'll give it a try.
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MichaelDaumMichaelDaum testing the difference [11:50]
hm. I wonder whether inline images should be removed using plainify() [12:03]
LeilaBy the way, there is something else I'm hoping you can point me in the correct direction on. For some reason, the thumbnails for indexed images don't show up in my Solr Search results on SolrSearch. The browser is showing a 404 error for them - but if I click on the actual image link (or the broken image) it displays fine. I looked at the html and it doesn't look too different from what I
see on your demo site where the thumbnail images do display. Example html:
<img src="/bin/rest/ImagePlugin/resize?topic=System.MailerContrib;file=logo.gif;size=64>;crop=on" alt="logo.gif" width="64">
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MichaelDaumdoes it 404 on the demo server? [12:06]
LeilaNope. Your demo server is fine. [12:08]
MichaelDaumhave you got the ImagePlugin installed?
if so, does it display the thumbnail image if you get the url into a tab of its own?
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LeilaYour html: <img src="/bin/rest/ImagePlugin/resize?topic=System.MailerContrib;file=logo.gif;size=70&gt;;crop=center" alt="logo.gif"> [12:12]
MichaelDaumright click on the image and do a "open image in separate tab" ... does that work out? [12:12]
LeilaI do have ImagePlugin installed...
Still a 404 when trying to open the image in a separate tab. URL looks like this: https://testwiki.mycompany.local/bin/rest/ImagePlugin/resize?topic=System.MailerContrib;file=logo.gif;size=64>;crop=on
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MichaelDaumwhich skin do you use? [12:16]
LeilaNatSkin
Actually my own skin on top of nat skin - very close to nat skin with some modifications
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MichaelDaumokay, have a look at the html sources. does it have a <base ...> tag somewhere at the top?
the relative img src link might interfere with the <base > tag in some unfortunate way... remove <base ...> from the skin
next: check you webserver's config. does https://testwiki.mycompany.local/bin/view work out?
should display Main.WebHome
btw the Solr-Index already does remove the <img > tag from the $text using plainify()
so the extra regex for base64 doesn't find anything at that point
(using SolrPlugin from trunk)
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LeilaDon't see a base tag? Maybe looking wrong? [12:21]
MichaelDaumgrep '<base' templates/*nat* [12:21]
LeilaOnly view.print.nat.tmpl has base.
and https://testwiki.mycompany.local/bin/view does work...
Good about planify in trunk. Are you planning a new release of SolrPlugin any time soon?
Not sure if it could be some sort of apache config thing... or the fact I'm using fcgid...
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MichaelDaumfcgi over here as well. did the /bin/view url work out? if not then it is a plain config error. [12:37]
LeilaRemoved base but no difference (that template shouldn't have been in use here anyway I expect)
Regarding planify, even the call before that to entityDecode is likely to be very slow with all that data in there...
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foswiki_irc9I'm clearly doing something wrong, but every time I try to run the mailnotify I get an error that it can't find 'Load.pm'. I've checked google, I've looked through the documentation, I've checked as much as I could before coming here. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm running foswiki off of Mint.
The error starts with "Can't locate Foswiki/Configure/Load.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Foswiki::Configure::Load module) (@INC contains: "
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FoswikiBothttp://trunk.foswiki.org/System/PerlDoc?module=Foswiki::Configure::Load [12:47]
Leilain my crontab I'm running mailnotify like this and it seems to work... cd /var/www/foswiki && perl -I bin tools/mailnotify -q
On Ubuntu though
did you add the -I bin?
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foswiki_irc9I specifically (while in the tools directory) run perl -I bin mailnotify [13:03]
LeilaHi Michael. bin/view works fine. Other rest scripts work fine. Not sure why this one doesn't seem to... [13:04]
foswiki_irc9The weird part part about this is it says it can't find the 'Load.pm' in @INC and it lists me a bunch of directories and I've tried putting the file in there but it still doesn't want to work. [13:05]
foswiki_irc6I have been experimenting with templates. When I create a new topic I see a selection option for which template to use. That works great. Is there an option to use something other than the default template when a user clicks a red wikiword that doesn't have a topic yet? [13:12]
Leilairc9: this works for me from in the tools dir: sudo perl -I ../bin ./mailnotify
But if I forget the -I ../bin it complains about setlib.cfg - not Load.pm
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jastthis is what I use: cd .../bin; ../tools/mailnotify [13:15]
foswiki_irc9Okay, thanks. Gives me a different error about 'use of unitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /var/www/Foswiki/lib/Foswiki/Engine.pm line 84. [13:16]
jast("..." is a placeholder ;)) [13:16]
ModAcOstLeila: Anything in foswikis/apaches error.log? You need ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick and tell the plugin which it has to use in configure. [13:19]
jastfoswiki_irc6: that would depend on the skin you're using [13:20]
foswiki_irc6I am using the default skin. Pattern Skin I think? [13:21]
jastin that case, generally a link can override the default template using the templatetopic URL parameter [13:22]
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jastso if you use that in the NEWLINKFORMAT preference, there you go [13:23]
foswiki_irc6I am not familiar with templatetopic URL parameter or NEWLINKFORMAT so doing some reading. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. [13:25]
jastsearch for NEWLINKFORMAT in System.DefaultPreferences [13:25]
foswiki_irc6yes I found that. I don't think I was clear in my original question. I have setup a couple of templates. When I click on create new topic on the left I get a dropdown list with templates to choose from. Is there a way to get a similar choice for when I click a new wikiword or is the only option to use a predefined default?
I see the default can be changed, but what I am after is a list to choose from.
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LeilaModAc0st: I'm using ImageMagic. I do see errors in the apache log. It says the given path was above the root and then unable to find file with a path. That path seems fine and the file is there as expected. Document Root is set to /var/www/testwiki and the path is for example /var/www/testwiki/pub/System/MyTopic/imagefile.gif [13:31]
jastfoswiki_irc6: oh, right, I was thinking of our own skin. you can change NEWLINKFORMAT like this, for example: Set NEWLINKFORMAT = <a class="foswikiNewLink" href="%SCRIPTURLPATH{"view"}%/$web/WebCreateNewTopic?topicparent=%WEB%.%TOPIC%;newtopic=$web.$topic;newtopictitle=%ENCODE{"$topic" type="url"}%" rel="nofollow" title="%MAKETEXT{"Create this topic"}%">$text</a>
that way you get to the same page as when you click "create new topic"
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foswiki_irc6ahh I see where you are headed. I hadn't thought of that option. thanks for the help. [13:33]
LeilaModAcOst: The error message is [Fri May 02 05:54:14.831984 2014] [:error] [pid 30296:tid 140521842394880] (20023)The given path was above the root path: [client 10.0.32.2:65250] xsendfile: unable to find file: /var/www/testwiki/pub/System/MailerContrib/igp_f0eee2f5790d562bef7e674be3596f37_logo.gif, referer: https://testwiki.mycompany.local/bin/view/Main/WebSearch [13:35]
foswiki_irc9I see there is two conversations going on here so I apologize if I lost it in the shuffle, was there any thoughts about getting the error 'sudo perl -I bin tools/mailnotify Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)... ' when I try to run 'sudo perl -I bin tools/mailnotify'?
the error does not include 'sudo perl -I bin tools/mailnotify'... I clearly need to watch my copy and paste. :)
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jastfirst off, it shouldn't be necessary to run mailnotify as root. the web server user is probably better choice. that said, the error probably isn't caused by that.
which release of foswiki are you using?
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CDot1MichaelDaum: what does <!--JQUERYPLUGIN::FOSWIKI: requires= missing ids: JQUERYPLUGIN::MIGRATE--> suggest to you? Apart from the obvious? [13:44]
foswiki_irc91.1.9 [13:44]
gac410foswiki_irc9: Actually it's very important to NEVER run the foswiki scripts as root. That can change ownership of the logs, and break Foswiki. Use "sudo -u <userid of webserver> ... to keep log ownership correct. [13:45]
jastyeah, that's a good point, and part of the reason I mentioned it at all :) [13:45]
MichaelDaumCDot1, it says that jquery.migrate hasn't been loaded. if it would have been loaded then it would be sorted in between jquery.js and jquery.foswiki.js [13:45]
LeilaModAcOst: I tried disabling XSendFile in my apache config. Makes the error go away but still no image being displayed... [13:45]
CDot1that's what I thought. Any reason you can think of why it might not be loaded? [13:46]
MichaelDaumCDot1, yes. it isn't loaded when not required. [13:46]
jastLeila: if the plugin is made to use xsendfile, turning it off simply means you won't get an image at all. there's *probably* a corresponding xsendfile setting in the plugin's config... [13:46]
MichaelDaumrequired in terms of jquery version [13:46]
CDot1this is a vanilla 1.1.8 install. It's loaded in my local 1.1.8 copy, but not in the users [13:47]
foswiki_irc9Did not know that. Thanks. Though I apparently did just break something as now the foswiki doesn't load up on my browser anymore [13:47]
jastif something thinks the web server supports xsendfile, it won't bother sending the file itself, and instead rely on the xsendfile mechanism [13:47]
MichaelDaumCDot1, which jquery-x.x.x version does it use? [13:47]
CDot11.8.2 [13:47]
MichaelDaumsee. jquery.migrate isn't required. [13:47]
jastfoswiki_irc9: it might help to chown -R webserveruser:webservergroup /path/to/foswiki [13:47]
CDot1interesting; so my local copy ought to be complaining, then, but isn't
CDot1 wonders why briefly, then looks elsewhere for problems
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MichaelDaumthe "missing ids" is only expressing constraints on the serial order of javascript files ... IF PRESENT.
if no jquery.foobar is "required" for the page to run, then it won't be loaded by the core. still the constraints to serialize the order hold, though not fulfilled. but not because the order is wrong, but because the js isn't there at all.
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CDot1sure. I am just trying to understand why two apparently identical systems yield different HTML outputs.
possibly a perl hash order issue
I don't think it's important.
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MichaelDaumeven reloading the same url on the same system gives you a different page every time
cus the linear order of assets loaded to the head is notoriously underconstraint.
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Leila@jast: Thanks! I changed the XSendFile Header setting in XSendFileContrib to None - and combined with disabling XSendFile in my apache config I can see the images. [13:52]
foswiki_irc9Okay, still broken but looks to be access issues now [13:52]
Leila@jast: Now to see if I can configure XSendFile so that it actually works... [13:54]
foswiki_irc9okay unbroken now thansk
Well, foswiki works but I still get that error trying to run mailnotify
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ModAcOstfoswiki_irc9: that concatination thing is only a warning, it should not stop mailnotify from working. What's your output? While testing do not run it with -q [14:04]
foswiki_irc9Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /var/www/Foswiki/lib/Foswiki/Engine.pm line 84. Use of uninitialized value $rest[0] in join or string at (eval 45) line 15. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en-US" xml:lang="en-US"> <head> <title> Bad Request</title> <meta http- [14:06]
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foswiki_irc9charset=iso-8859-1" /> </head> <body> <h1>Bad Request</h1><p></p> </body> </html>Can't locate object method "throw" via package "Error::Simple" (perhaps you forgot to load "Error::Simple"?) at /var/www/Foswiki/lib/Foswiki/Users/HtPasswdUser.pm line 209.
The command I'm typing is specifically 'perl -I bins tools/mailnotify' when I'm in the root Foswiki directory
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gac410foswiki_irc9: Did you typo that? ( bins ? ) the directory is usually bin (no s) [14:09]
foswiki_irc9Yes, sorry, I did
'perl -I bin tools/mailnotify'
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gac410What user does your apache run as? [14:10]
foswiki_irc9I'm not sure [14:11]
gac410What is normal ownership of your data/ directory? [14:11]
foswiki_irc9I would assume my user log in (my apologies, I'm fairly new to Linux) [14:11]
gac410Ah... no, It depends upon your version of Linux, usually Apache runs as "www" or "apache" What linux are you on? [14:12]
foswiki_irc9Mint [14:12]
gac410Uhg.... the one I have no idea about. :D [14:12]
foswiki_irc9It's what my boss recommend :/
recommended
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CDot1I use mint. it's just Ubuntu.
www-data:www-data
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gac410Okay. So your files should all be owned by use www-data, group www-data down in the foswiki installation directories.
The command to run mailnotify with correct ownership should be "sudo -u www-data -I bin tools/mailnotify"
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foswiki_irc9Yes [14:16]
LeilaGot XSendFile working - was just missing the XSendFilePath setting in my apache config. [14:16]
foswiki_irc9says invalid option running that command
invalid option -- 'I'
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Leilasudo -u www-data perl -I bin tools/mailnotify
assuming you are running from your foswiki root dir e.g. /var/www/foswiki
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foswiki_irc9Okay, thanks
Prints a similar line at the end now (not the same), "</html>Can't call method "with" without a package or object reference at /var/www/Foswiki/lib/Foswiki/Users/HtPasswdUser.pm line 599."
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gac410something really strange is going on.
It's going to get long, but try "sudo -u www-data -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify" I don't understand why perl is not finding some important stuff.
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foswiki_irc9This is what it returned
"Processing Main Main has no subscribers Processing Sandbox Sandbox has no subscribers Processing System System has no subscribers Processing Trash Trash has no subscribers"
After trying the above command (with '
with 'perl after www-data'
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gac410oh yea I forgot about perl :D [14:28]
foswiki_irc9Is that the output I expect?
should expect
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gac410Okay So that is working now. Good. That just says that the WebNotify topic in each of those webs has no users subscribed.
Yes. That is correct output.
So now, to test, edit some topics in Sandbox, and edit Sandbox/WebNotify and make sure your user is subscribed to changes in Sandbox. Then run that command again. It should send you some mail.
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foswiki_irc9Sweet. Thanks for all the help
It's greatly, greatly appreciated
It's been an interesting road learning linux and foswiki at the same time
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gac410Sure. I have no idea why those libs are not resolving automatically. Once you see it send mail, then the next task is to get the command into the crontab
That's another adventure :)
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foswiki_irc9Hey, the more I learn for my career the better it is for me.
This is basically a side project for me.
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gac410You'll want to edit the www-data user's crontab. "sudo -u www-data crontab -l" (lower case letter L, not capital I) to list the www-data crontab
and same command, but -e to edit it.
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foswiki_irc9Okay, thank you, sir. Again, it's greatly appreciated. [14:39]
gac410glad to help [14:46]
jasthey George, I don't know if you saw my comment on the Item about unescaped entities in CompareRevisionsAddOn, so I'm mentioning it here ;) [14:52]
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foswiki_irc9Hey, gac410, I created the cron for my mailnotify but it doesn't seem to be running [15:23]
gac410What does your crontab line look like? [15:24]
foswiki_irc9I ran 'sudo -u www-data crontab -e, created the following line '17 * * * * www-data cd /var/www/Foswiki && sudo -u www-data perl -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify' for testing, when the 17th minute of the hour hit, I did not get my email update.
I can run the 'www-data cd /var/www/Foswiki && sudo -u www-data perl -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify'" by itself and if I made changes to my foswiki it does send me an email
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gac410Ah.... you don't need the sudo in crontab. It runs as www-data already [15:25]
jastleave out the 'www-data' part near the beginning
and the 'sudo -u www-data' can be left out, too
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gac410'17 * * * * cd /var/www/Foswiki && perl -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify
You probably want to add the -q option to avoid logging the results or include something like > working/logs/mailnotify.log 2>&1 to capture the log from each run
g'night jast. Thanks for all the help today
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foswiki_irc9Thanks I'll try that
Okay, I tried the test cronjob as you wrote (changed it to minute 33) and I still don't get the email. Is there any service I need to restart after editting the file?
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gac410as long as you use crontab -e to do the edit, the system should detect the change.
The 17 said it will run at 17 minutes past the hour iirc I have to look it up every time :)
If you added the > redirect for the output, was anything captured?
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foswiki_irc9At the end of the job? [15:37]
gac410I don't understand your question. [15:39]
foswiki_irc9You wrote 'If you added the >', I meant, do you mean if I add it at the end of the cronjob? [15:42]
gac410foswiki_irc9 If your line is as below, then your Foswiki/working/logs/mailnotify.log should have results of the last run, at 17 minutes past the hour
17 * * * * cd /var/www/Foswiki && perl -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify > working/logs/mailnotify.log 2>&1
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foswiki_irc9Okay, it appears I have an issue with not proper permissions if I don't write sudo [15:51]
gac410Hm.... Did you edit the crontabl for the www-data user?
That should run with the correct permissions
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foswiki_irc9It wrote out, '/var/www/Foswiki/working/htpasswd.lock open or create password lock file failed -check access rights: Permission denied at /var/www/Foswiki/lib/Foswiki/Users/HtPasswdUser.pm line 209.'
This is my job, '50 * * * * cd /var/www/Foswiki && perl -I bin -I lib -I lib/CPAN/lib tools/mailnotify > working/logs/mailnotify.log 2>&1'
It wrote that out to the mailnotify.log file
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gac410right, but which user's crontab. Who is the owner of that mailnotify.log file?
That will tell you who it ran as
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foswiki_irc9Ah, my username to log in to my computer
Just checked it
not the www-data
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gac410okay, so you edited the wrong crontab. [15:53]
foswiki_irc9I did crontab -e [15:54]
gac410You need to "sudo -u www-data crontab -e "
So you need to delete the crontab you created under your own ID.
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foswiki_irc9Ah okay, yeah I see you wrote that [15:54]
gac410foswiki_irc9 you'll probably have to delete that mailnotify.log, so the www-data can write a new one
Since you own it currently.
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foswiki_irc9Okay, thanks
It works, thank you!
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gac410glad to help [16:00]
foswiki_irc9I appreciate all the help today, just I have to actually leave now. I appreciate all the help, some of the best help I've had in a long time [16:00]
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foswiki_irc2Anyone using the flowchart plugin? [22:26]
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LeilaIs there any way to add separators between groups of rows in a data form?
Basically I'd like some form of subheadings to label groups of fields. The label option doesn't seem right for this...
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