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GithubBot[TestBootstrapPlugin] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/_m5I2Q
TestBootstrapPlugin/master 6da1862 George Clark: Item13023: Re-sync tests with core bootstrap
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GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/oBUDXQ
distro/master c2ffab5 George Clark: Item13077: Unit test for corrupted regex...
distro/master 28cedb5 George Clark: Item13023: Unit tests are not happy with fork to grep...
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foswiki_irc9Howcome I do not have access to /tools/configure? [01:04]
gac410what do you mean? [01:04]
foswiki_irc9I think it has to do with this:" Enter the list of user names that are allowed to access configure Separate multiple names with spaces, can't be a name you use to edit Foswiki. Names must exist in .htpasswd file: (recommended)"
I am configuring Foswiki for the first time
and I navigate to the /foswiki/tools/configure
to configure the wiki for the first time
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gac410How did you install foswiki? our production release 1.1.9 doesn't have tools/configure.
navigate... you mean foswiki/bin/configure?
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foswiki_irc9hmmmmm [01:06]
gac410via the web? [01:06]
foswiki_irc9maybe thats what I do mean... [01:06]
gac410tools is for shell scripts [01:06]
foswiki_irc9I dl'd from here
http://foswiki.org/Download/FoswikiRelease01x01x09?redirectedfrom=Download.WebHome
ohhhhh
okay
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gac410okay. yes 1.1.9 ... that's the current production release. Just making sure you weren't trying to run our github alpha code, which does have a tools/configure :) [01:07]
foswiki_irc9you are right
you are totally right!
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gac410Okay what happens you browse to foswiki/bin/configure you get access denied? (403) How did you configure apache?
(and which release of apache are you using?)
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foswiki_irc9I/m getting a Forbidden now
Server version: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu)
I configured using the ApacheConfigGenerator
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gac410Okay. I think you need to enable mod_authz_compat (or somethin like that) [01:09]
foswiki_irc9okie dokie. i'll be back [01:10]
gac410ApacheCOnfigGen generates a 2.2 apache config, and 2.4 has big syntax changes in auth
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_access_compat.html
on debian it's a2enmod mod_access_compat not sure about ubuntu
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foswiki_irc9i have a mods .load file called access_compat.load
it looks like its already loaded though
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gac410not sure. I don't do much with ubuntu, [01:12]
foswiki_irc9thanks [01:12]
gac410lets see. Assuming that access_compat is working, the apache config generator allowed an "AND" or "OR" for hostname and username
If you dont' get a login prompt, it's probably denied by ip address. Check out what's in your "allow from" statement under the file match for configure
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foswiki_irc9good point
if i leave it blank for right now everyone should have access, right?
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gac410If you are accessing from external network, don't forget you need to consider your ip may be natted to a different address.
Yes. "allow from all" I think will do it
Satisfy all vs. Satisfy any. is what chooses and or or. This part of the foswiki & apache config is a royal pain.
Foswiki 1.2 will simplify this a lot .... I hope ...someday ..
If you check your apache error log, you should probably see something like "Denied by server configuration" reported
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foswiki_irc9access_compat:error] [pid 28316] [client 10.24.96.209:57656] AH01797: client denied by server configuration: /var/www/foswiki_demo/bin/configure
it seems weird to me that I would get a 403 instead of a 401 error
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gac410yeah. so definitely something in that File match part of the configuration [01:21]
foswiki_irc9(I mean, that I am getting a 403 error instead of a 401 error) [01:21]
gac410not sure. [01:21]
foswiki_irc9is there a skeleton config for apache 2.4.7 in the .tar? [01:21]
gac410No. 2.4 only recently hit the distros.
hang on. I need to post it but I do have a copy of the ApacheConfigGenerator that has a 2.4 select box
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foswiki_irc9I just changed it to Allow from All
and it let me through
I don't like that I had to reveal it, but luckily I am on an intranet
and I will probably just re-block it after I am done (if that is possible)
thank you so much for your help. This is my first time dealing with apache.
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gac410Yes. Apache is very configurable. The trick is figuring it out.
One moment please.
See http://foswiki.org/Support/ApacheConfigGenerator24 I've tested the 2.4 config once. and it seems okay
If you want to give it a try, that might be helpful. In theory mod_access_compat should be sufficient, but I had to tweak our config on our foswiki.org server, when apache was updated, even with mod_access_compat
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foswiki_irc9thank you sir [01:26]
gac410yw Let us know how you make out. [01:27]
foswiki_irc9I HAVE A MAIN PAGE!!!!!!!!
I have never been soo happy
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gac410Great! [01:28]
foswiki_irc9my coworker has suggested I show my appreciation as follows: gac410++ [01:29]
gac410thanks [01:29]
foswiki_irc9that wraps up my day quite nicely :) [01:30]
gac410excellent. If you get a chance tomorrow, please give the 2.4 config generator a try. We need victims ^H^H^H,,, testers :) [01:31]
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harlanIs there a way to change the boilerplate on the notification messages on a per-web basis?
harlan reads MailerContrib docs...
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lasdamis twiki and foswiki completely different to the point of not being comparable nowadays, or is it a valid question to ask how they compare in individuality and in strength/weaknesses? [11:37]
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jastof course it's a valid question
just be prepared to get biased answers :)
they aren't exactly not comparable – fundamentally both are centered on the idea of structured wikis
my personal impression is that Foswiki has tended to focus more on improving the technical foundation, at the very core, to make way for interesting things being built on top more easily, while TWiki (which I have close to no experience with, so this may not be entirely correct) has focused more on adding features without reworking the underlying things too much
and I guess it's worth mentioning that Foswiki has tended to have more manpower since the split – many of the most active developers joined Foswiki, after all –, though it's had its ups and downs... just like TWiki, probably
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lasdamcool
thanks for your input/perspective/answer
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is there an implication there that foswiki might be technical but less user friendly/simple?
more technical*
or I guess there isn't. anyway, I tried to install foswiki, but even with an updated apache config it won't run the configure script as anything else but plain text
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jastsetting up CGI can be a little tricky sometimes
if you want me to give your apache config a once over, pastebin it somewhere
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lasdamI used the foswiki apache config creator thingie. but sure [12:48]
GithubBot[PiwikPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/aHwDcg
PiwikPlugin/master 2afc1c0 MichaelDaum: Item13136: make sure not to miss a request...
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lasdamjast: http://pastebin.com/DPjAQutY [12:49]
jastlasdam: is the cgi/cgid module enabled in apache / are other CGI scripts working? [12:54]
lasdamyeah, they're enabled and other CGI scripts works
I'm not 100% sure if what I did for apache to register the conf was right though, but it worked for twiki. I made a new name.conf in /etc/apache2/conf-available/ then I did ln -s conf-available/name.conf conf-enabled/name.conf, then restarted apache
(on Ubuntu)
and it seemed to work, since apache first gave me an error with that script because I hadn't enabled mod_rewrite. I enabled mod_rewrite and then it stopped complaining
MichaelDaum: is that a default installation?
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MichaelDaumof course not
however it is the default deployment as I deliver it to clients
minus the experimental Angular skin
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jast"of course not" may sound a little strong, but knowing that there are many extremely customized Foswikis puts it into perspective :) [13:04]
lasdamI see :) [13:04]
MichaelDaumbare bones Foswiki does behave quite differently [13:04]
JulianLevensMichaelDaum, jast: please comment on Item13135 [13:05]
MichaelDaumJulianLevens, yea well. I prefer to manage .gitignores myself. [13:07]
JulianLevensDid you read it? It's a plan to provide structure and leave room for managing your own [13:08]
MichaelDaum... and disabled update_gitignore_file in pseudo-install [13:08]
JulianLevensoh that certainly needs doing anyway
Or at least seriously simplifying
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MichaelDauma single .gitignore at distro level doesnt cut it imho
better is to delegate .gitignores to a manageable scope, i.e. for the core plugins
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JulianLevensI allow for that; I'm just believe in most cases there won't be any need for one [13:10]
MichaelDaumthe distro level .gitignore should actually be available to local envs as you'd be able to ignore custom extensions there [13:10]
JulianLevensCustom extensions cannot be ignored anyway. For example I've pseudo-installed FastCGIEngineContrib and it keeps showing as untracked [13:12]
MichaelDaume.g. I've got lots of custom pseudo-installed extensions at distro/.gitignore ... and I am happy that this file isn't version controlled part of the distro repo
the put FastCGIEngineContrib into distro/.gitignore
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JulianLevensAah, that wasn't working for me [13:14]
MichaelDaummy distro/.gitignore has got 350 lines ... so pretty customized [13:15]
JulianLevensI saw an explanation somewhere that a directory containing a .git could not be ignored
In hindsight it was because in was in core/.gitignore
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jastyou can always customize .git/info/exclude even if a .gitignore started being tracked at the root of distro.git
I can't comment on the general approach in the Item right now because I can't think straight :)
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JulianLevensWould you mind pastebinning your distro/.gitignore I'm curious
Ideally there should be two .gitignores at distro level; one tracked and one left for local hacking
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MichaelDaumMichaelDaum just updated his .gitignore ... now at 528 lines [13:20]
JulianLevensMy .git/info/exclude is at 884 lines. Do I win? [13:21]
MichaelDaumhands down [13:21]
JulianLevensHow many of your ignores are symlinks?
A key thought is that when someone creates a new dev env then the standard .gitignore + whatever pseudo-install distro does should leave the new developer with a clean 'git status'
Mine was full of shit and left me feeling my clean env was broken
It took me some time to get my head around what was going on
How many of your ignores and gz files?
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MichaelDaumlots of them are symlinks installed by pseudo-install
dunno. how many are gz files. I've got a *.gz in there so ... how cares
^how^who
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JulianLevensOk, well when I have check in rights I can push this as branch Item13135 so you could try it out; mind you this can wait till after 1.2 is released
Anyway gotta go
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mac_greggyHi - question - is there a way/plugin to send a whole topic via email in foswiki?
I've already looked at SendEmailPlugin but that seems limited to the fields of a form
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foswiki_irc3good morning IRC
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USER lpnava a b
I'm struggling here. Just call me "foswiki_irc3"
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foswiki_irc3my findmoreextensions page is not working
could this be because of a firewall issue?
I'm getting this "Error accessing Foswiki.org: Can't connect to foswiki.org:80 (Connection timed out)"
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I went about manually installing NatSkin
i used the perl installer script
but now I am here: Do you want to proceed with installation of NatSkin and Dependencies? [y/n] y
but after pressing enter, nothing has happened for ~5 minutes
does anyone know if this is expected
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http://foswiki.org/pub/Extensions/
this site no longer connects to anything for me...
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I found out that sudo was not keeping proxy settings
but i am still having trouble connecting
Error accessing Foswiki.org: Can't connect to foswiki.org:80 (Connection timed out)
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