#foswiki 2015-07-17,Fri

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foswiki_irc8Hi guys, as SF.net is down because of storage problems - is there any other mirror to download FosWiki 2.0.0 you know of?
I'm mainly interested in the VM image right now for testing...
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andreliHi foswiki_irc8: I guess you can still access SF data via its mirrors, e.g. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/f/fo/foswiki/foswiki/2.0.0/ [08:18]
jastsourceforge seems to have forgotten to make backups
btw foswiki_irc8 is already gone
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GithubBot[AngularPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmwoX
AngularPlugin/master 5470ca5 MichaelDaum: Item13033: upgrade to angular 1.4...
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GithubBot[AngularSkin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmwKt
AngularSkin/master b2f2bc2 MichaelDaum: Item13069: clear twisty store on page change
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13069 [ Item13069: overlay skin for PatternSkin or NatSkin using AngularPlugin as a service endpoint. ] [08:53]
GithubBot[AutoTemplatePlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmwi3
AutoTemplatePlugin/master ccddfb3 MichaelDaum: Item11150: fixed templating of topics being created...
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GithubBot[CaptchaPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmwdA
CaptchaPlugin/master 09cc55e MichaelDaum: Item13223: added a placeholder README...
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13223 [ Item13223: Lacks "img" folder in plugin pub directory referenced by js. ] [09:38]
JulianLevensCDot you called? [09:45]
CDotjust wondered what you were doing to bulk_copy; gac410 said you were working on it. [09:45]
jastanyone in the MaintainGroup... can you add a direct link to the broadcast message in Download.WebPreferences? e.g. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/f/fo/foswiki/foswiki/2.0.0/ [09:46]
JulianLevensI was looking at in a couple of days ago. Since then I've been clearing away $work stuff and that's now done. I'll be able to dedicate some time over the coming weeks to FW [09:47]
CDotno worries, I just didn't want to tromp over something you'd already done :-) [09:48]
JulianLevensok, thanks [09:48]
CDotjast: that didn't make sense. You mean * Set BROADCAST ? [09:48]
JulianLevensI saw your discussion with George about bulk_copy et al; I dare say I'll be back here adding to that pretty soon [09:50]
jastthere is an existing BROADCASTMESSAGE in there that indicates sourceforge doesn't have the 2.0 download right now
directly visiting one of sourceforge's mirrors serves as a workaround so people can still download foswiki
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CDotwhat do you want me to change it to? [09:50]
jastmaybe something like this: [09:51]
CDothowzat: http://foswiki.org/Download/WebPreferences [09:51]
jast%X% *Note: Sourceforge download site is currently degraded. Release 2.0 appears to be missing.* Until it is fully operational again, 2.0 is available here: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/f/fo/foswiki/foswiki/2.0.0/
y, that's good
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GithubBot[FlexFormPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmrfn
FlexFormPlugin/master bd1bdbe MichaelDaum: Item13377: remove use Data::Dump...
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GithubBot[MultiLingualPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmrIG
MultiLingualPlugin/master 1d8e878 MichaelDaum: Item13527: fixed detection of CONTENT_LEXICON...
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MichaelDaumCDot, did you ever use nytprof on the core? [11:34]
CDotyes [11:34]
MichaelDaumjust did so recently [11:34]
CDotnormally from the command-line [11:34]
MichaelDaumgot some script to generate all of the html report with flamegraph and treemap n stuff [11:34]
CDotand what did you learn? [11:35]
MichaelDaumFoswiki::Store::Rcs::Handler::readFile()
http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13525
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FoswikiBothttp://trunk.foswiki.org/System/PerlDoc?module=Foswiki::Store::Rcs::Handler [11:35]
MichaelDaumthe same files are re-read a dozen times or more [11:35]
CDoty, good patch, though won't it eat memory like a demon? [11:35]
MichaelDaumin my case (natskin) System.WebHome took 118 file reads for a single page impression
never mind the patch. breaks save()
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CDotthe same patch might be applicable to PFS too. [11:36]
MichaelDaumas the save codepath relies on readFile() to _realy_ re-read the file to construct a new meta obj [11:36]
CDotyou could add a flag....
"nocache"
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MichaelDaumturns out that this patch in conjunction with WorkflowPlugin breaks saving controlled topics
calls saveAs() ... and returns with old data loaded into $meta
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CDotisn't readFile internal to the RCS store? [11:38]
MichaelDaumcoming from the handler's cachje
y
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CDotok, so you can clear the cache on a save, can't you? [11:38]
MichaelDaumup the call stack it is called getRevision($version) [11:38]
CDotto force a re-read? [11:38]
MichaelDaumyea mabe
but maybe both pfs and rcs need a single cache before branching off into the store impl ... not sure
nother finding reported in this bug item
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CDotah, there's a fair bit of code that *could* be common
but RCS store was such a mess, i tried to leave a lot of it behind
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MichaelDaumgetRevision($version) ignores $version and alway returns latest=1 and .txt [11:39]
CDottsk [11:40]
MichaelDaumlet me give you a github url .. . sec
gotta rerun nytp
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JulianLevensI have *wondered* if the Store is better positioned to decide what to cache [11:41]
MichaelDaumyes and I still wonder _why_ it re-reads a single file so often
cache or not cache...
CDot, Foswiki::Store::Rcs::Handler::getRevision() ... says it takes a $version arg ... which it doesnt use
and $isLatest is _always true ... given the obj exists
MichaelDaum confused
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CDotCDot ducks, as he gets very confused by all that as well. Legacy. [11:45]
MichaelDaumokay so the last method called before diving into the actual store impl is Foswiki::Meta::loadVersion, line 1156 [11:46]
FoswikiBothttp://trunk.foswiki.org/System/PerlDoc?module=Foswiki::Meta [11:46]
CDot(as well as several different cooks all add salt to the soup) [11:46]
MichaelDaumloadVersions is called equally often by load() as well as text() ... 50 times or so
... which brings us to Sven's metacache
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MichaelDaumMichaelDaum trying to improve the cache patch [12:06]
simple fix to invalidate the cache when saveFile is called
now works with workflow-controlled topics again
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before, 689ms have been spent in readFile(). after applying this patch only 131ms
but thats fluctuating quite some depending on the OS' disk performance
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GithubBot[distro] MichaelDaum created Item13525 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vmr5k
distro/Item13525 5735e2d MichaelDaum: Item13525: add a low-level disk cache...
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13525 [ Item13525: Store reads the same file repeatedly from disk ] [12:26]
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fragfuttercan someone tell the md5sum of Foswiki-2.0.0.tgz? [13:21]
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GithubBot[WikiWorkbenchContrib] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmoZu
WikiWorkbenchContrib/master 7fdddff MichaelDaum: Item13527: added support for multi-ling wiki apps...
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GithubBot[ClassificationPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmolv
ClassificationPlugin/master 2c74608 MichaelDaum: Item13528: added support for !WikiWorkbench-3.0...
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GithubBot[distro] cdot pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmoyU
distro/master ba0a5df Crawford Currie: Item13516: corrected attachment transfer. There are still cases which may confuse it, but it should recover from just about anything now. Plus fixed and disabled annoying RCS files check in PFS - it should only be enabled in the specific case where someone has ignored the documentation and tried to overlay RCS and PFS stores.
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13516 [ Item13516: bulk_copy.pl has fails to copy some webs, crashes copyng attachment revisions. Unusable. ] [14:29]
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Koen_hey, some of our topics have 100's of revisions, how can i delete older revisions? [15:19]
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GithubBot[DBCachePlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKgz
DBCachePlugin/master 2643c9c MichaelDaum: Item13529: extract list of section names...
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GithubBot[EditChapterPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKV8
EditChapterPlugin/master 50030f3 MichaelDaum: Item13530: fix positioning of modal dialogs
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13530 [ Item13530: fix positioning of modal dialogs ] [16:23]
GithubBot[FilterPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKrw
FilterPlugin/master f55f1fe MichaelDaum: Item13483: fixed compatibility with Foswiki-2.0
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FoswikiBothttp://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13483 [ Item13483: Incompatible extensions with the unicode core ] [16:30]
LynnwoodMichaelDaum - I'm excited about the TopicType inheritance tree in latest WikiWorkbenchContrib!
I just installed it and am looking for where/how one can see this in action.
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MichaelDaumit is on Applications/.../CompleteDocumentation
see https://demo.michaeldaumconsulting.com/pub/Applications/RenderInheritanceGraph/BlogApp.png, https://demo.michaeldaumconsulting.com/pub/Applications/RenderInheritanceGraph/ClassificationApp.png
the ones on the topic are clickable as well, though DirectedGraphPlugin wants me to be authenticated ... probably too eager attaching pngs produced from dot sources
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Lynnwoodthanks so much! [16:41]
MichaelDaumonly thing missing is _real_ inheritance the way Will has proposed it once
using some low-tech solutions such as %INCLUDE{...}% in DataForm definitions
but that may not be smart enough resolving in the same formfield being included twice from two different sources, in case of multiple inheritance
as you can see it in ClassificationApp.png
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Lynnwoodexcellent... i got it working on my Dreamhost installation (even!) after some fiddling with getting Graphviz installed locally. [16:46]
MichaelDaumin case of ClassifiedControlledTopics there are at least 3 routes up to WikiTopic ... so using a stupid %INCLUDE of parent DataForms would list TopicTitle and Summary tree times ... and TopicType 5 times [16:46]
Lynnwoodright [16:46]
MichaelDaumthe only way I see for real inheritance is to standardize the TopicType field
and assemble the DataForm definition on its base
problem is: performance
new FormDefinition would become a recursive operation
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GithubBot[FlexWebListPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKMx
FlexWebListPlugin/master 24283ca MichaelDaum: Item13531: don't cache webfilters in persist. perl
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LynnwoodAs an aside, i do notice a couple of minor issues in WikiWorkBench and ClassificationPlugin: 1) The grid on ClassificationApp.WebHome displays no topics. 2) The topic grid on many of the TopicType topics displays no title (first column), so there's no link to the referenced topic. I've seen this before and fixed locally. I'll try to see what's happening and follow up with you on it. [16:51]
MichaelDaum$Foswiki::cfg{JQGridPlugin}{DefaultConnector} = 'dbcache'; [16:52]
Lynnwoodah yes [16:52]
MichaelDaumgonna release a fix for it so that it defaults to dbcache by default
the other connectors are kind of unmaintained
i.e. search and solr
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LynnwoodWhen i installed this an some other plugins, for some reason the settings did not get any value initially. I had to go through and tell each to reset to default.
that did it
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GithubBot[JQGridPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmK9b
JQGridPlugin/master 393cfd6 MichaelDaum: Item13532: default to dbcache connector
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GithubBot[ImagePlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmK5O
ImagePlugin/master cd66e6e MichaelDaum: Item13533: add support for foswiki-2.0...
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GithubBot[JQTwistyContrib] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKFV
JQTwistyContrib/master 8ae2b88 MichaelDaum: Item13534: add css to indicate twisty state
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GithubBot[SolrPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKxE
SolrPlugin/master 25f0ca2 MichaelDaum: Item13483: added support for Foswiki-2.0...
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GithubBot[SolrPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKxS
SolrPlugin/master ac186aa MichaelDaum: Item13483: prep release
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jmk0more on the perl XS interface: perl has a reasonably portable method for building C code modules, but I haven't yet discovered a portable C++ build environment. Is that reason enough to punt on trying to write this plugin with a C++ back-end? [17:26]
to rephrase: MakeMaker is smart enough to know which compiler to use, probably based on how perl itself was built, but that's a C compiler and I don't think perl has any knowledge of a C++ compiler. As such I've had to tell it to use g++ [17:32]
GithubBot[TopicInteractionPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vmKj1
TopicInteractionPlugin/master d51acdb MichaelDaum: Item13477: added support for Foswiki-2.0...
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GithubBot[XSendFileContrib] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6vq
XSendFileContrib/master bf3cfcf MichaelDaum: Item13483: added compatibility to Foswiki-2.0
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jmk0weird that chrome doesn't autoscroll this IRC interface on GetLiveSupport when firefox did... the lack of scrolling means I don't get much indication if chat is happening. [17:44]
GithubBot[MimeIconPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6UP
MimeIconPlugin/master 02ba8cc MichaelDaum: Item13535: add mappings for weba, webm, webp
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GithubBot[RedDotPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6kA
RedDotPlugin/master a2e3549 MichaelDaum: Item13536: rewrite as jQuery plugin
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GithubBot[NatSkinPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6tt
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GithubBot[NatSkin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6Gf
NatSkin/master 38bd2ed MichaelDaum: Item13483:Item13501: added support for Foswiki-2.0...
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GithubBot[ListyPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vm6WF
ListyPlugin/master 40e760c MichaelDaum: Item12923:Item13483: added support for Foswiki-2.0...
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gac410I've uploaded the foswiki 2.0.0 distribution files to foswiki.org and flipped the Download topic over to "topic hosted" files/ [21:36]
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foswiki_irc1I'm trying to use the publish plugin. I'd like you publish pages as they appear when I put ? cover= print; skin= pattern at the end of the url. I can set "pattern"as the skin in the publish plugin firm. But how do I set cover equal to print?
please excuse those typos! I'm writing on my phone after having left the office!
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gac410foswiki_irc1: I've not used that plugin, and authors are in europe. probably sleeping ;)
I'll take a look, but can't promise anything
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gac410ping ColasHme ... irclogs.foswiki.org responds to ping, but not http. ... apache down? [23:15]

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