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GithubBot[distro] vrurg pushed 1 new commit to Item13897: https://git.io/v1t7a
distro/Item13897 1c1672f Vadim Belman: Item13897: createNewFoswikiApp() is now initializing cfg using cfgParams
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13897 [ Item13897: Implement ImproveOOModel proposal. ] [02:23]
GithubBot[distro] vrurg pushed 2 new commits to Item14237: https://git.io/v1t71
distro/Item14237 616ad79 Vadim Belman: Item14237: Merge commit '99294e8f73d5c82ccdeb22ca294eb0a63e3450dc' into Item14237...
distro/Item14237 9817646 Vadim Belman: Item14237: Merge commit '1c1672f91ac4a4b2db744144ef4522eb9b65a1c7' into Item14237...
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14237 [ Item14237: Implement Development.OOConfigSpecsFormat proposal ] [02:25]
GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to Release02x01: https://git.io/v1t5E
distro/Release02x01 c73d23c George Clark: Item14219: Incorporate cookbook changes, bump version...
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14219 [ Item14219: Add WebSideBar toggle cookbook contributed by [[Main.StefanKr├╝ger][StefanKr├╝ger]] ] [02:38]
GithubBot[distro] vrurg pushed 1 new commit to Item14237: https://git.io/v1t5S
distro/Item14237 4ad7e49 Vadim Belman: Item14237: Initial commit to the proposal
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sahilsinhahi I'm making some progress porting a twiki 4.2.3 to foswiki, ive run into a problem where they were using the Main web for everything. I'm wondering what the smart way to proceed is?
rename their main web to something else and add users in new main web?
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GithubBot[TopicInteractionPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 2 new commits to Item14223: https://git.io/v1q8g
TopicInteractionPlugin/Item14223 c6cc409 MichaelDaum: Item14223: first working version
TopicInteractionPlugin/Item14223 d3368e7 MichaelDaum: Item14223: gettext run
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14223 [ Item14223: replace outdated plupload uploader with jquery-file-upload ] [11:09]
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gac410Hi MichaelDaum good morning .. I have a zones question if you have a moment. [14:10]
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MichaelDaumHi George [14:29]
gac410howdy Michael
Just for jollies I was trying to change PatternSkin to use ADDTOZONE for the CSS. (NOT for 2.1.x :D)
But the "requires=id" doesn't seem to impact the order of the expanded css links in the generated page.
So I've just been a bit confused about what I'm seeing.
so just wondering if the requires is supposd to be strictly ordered on expansion, or am I misunderstanding things.
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MichaelDaumthe requires="..." parameter list IDs of other assets loaded into a zone that have to be loaded before. it thus is just a constraint on the linear ordering in the page. [14:43]
gac410So in theory, if I add A requires B, and add B required C I should see C, B , A in that order on the page? [14:44]
MichaelDaumthese constraints may be satisfied in one or the other way. that is: in most cases the exact ordering, the way a page really turns out, is mostly under-constrained
yes
or B and/or C aren't there at all
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gac410darn. Well I'm apparently not seeing that. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'll fiddle with it some more. [14:45]
MichaelDaumthen A is happy as well
what's the exact requires="..." parameter then?
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gac410Right I understand that they can be missing. and you get an inlne <!-- missing
hang on I'll try to pastbin what I did.
see http://pastebin.com/iabGvVss
I have layout, style requires layout and color requires style, I'd expect to get layout, styles, color in order. But the order seems to be more unpredictable.
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MichaelDaumrequireS [14:49]
gac410And if I activate my new sdebar template it adds css that requires PATTERN::CSS::layout but ends up renderins .... Awwww crap ... [14:50]
MichaelDaumthis is %ADDZOTONE{...requires="..."}% ... not require="..." [14:50]
gac410how the heck did I miss that. I swear I c/p from somewhere. [14:50]
MichaelDaumstackoverflow ;) ?
did you c/p from the question or the answer ?
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gac410definitely didn't use stackoverflow. I've been puttering down in our templates. Obviously I messed up somehow [14:51]
MichaelDaumMichaelDaum just kidding [14:52]
gac410well anyway, that explains why it wasn't working :D
and... well I'll be ... amazing that. Use the right parameter name and it actually works. Doh
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RiskRewardHi, is it true that the createinfo meta has been removed? I tried using it yesterday and it didn't work, and looking at the raw text of a topic, it doesn't look like it even exists. [22:21]
gac410Hi RiskReward not sure I've ever used it. [22:22]
RiskRewardI was trying to use it to build a table list the date certain topics were first created. [22:23]
gac410There are some references to it in the developer and tasks web. I have no idea what happened to it. [22:25]
RiskRewardHow would you query the date a topic was first created? [22:27]
gac410I don't think it was intended for permanent storage in the topic, but a questionable cache of info accessible by querying rev 1 of the topic. [22:27]
RiskRewardI found this commit: "Removed never-populated CREATEINFO meta - think this was something Sven never finished"
Item13068
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13068 [ Item13068: PlainFileStore / Foswiki bootstrap and migration considerations ] [22:28]
gac410Yeah. We had quite an effort to untangle several years of partial features out from trunk. [22:28]
RiskRewardSo how would you build a query that finds the date the first rev of a topic was created? [22:30]
gac410I really don't know how. The docs seem to imply that CREATEINFO is there, but I can't see any code that supports that :( [22:36]
RiskRewardYeah, me too. [22:37]
I read that you are recovering from an operation. Hope e/thing OK? [22:44]
gac410I'm hangin in there.
thx
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RiskRewardHope your hospital had wifi :) [22:45]
gac410wasn't there long enough. day surgery.
gotta run - eating supper.
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RiskRewardbye [22:46]
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