#foswiki 2017-01-18,Wed

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gac410zak256: Opened Item14280 for the query search issues. [01:06]
FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14280 [ Item14280: Query search reports syntax errors if formfield name begins with numeric. ] [01:06]
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foswiki_irc8Hi, can I ask for assistance here for Foswiki installation issues?
Hi, can I ask assistance here for Foswiki installation issues?
[11:04]
jastsure. you may have to wait a while for someone to answer, though. (I can't help you in the next hour or two because I'm busy with meeting, sorry) [11:13]
foswiki_irc8oh...
well anyway, I'm quite new to Ubuntu and my boss asked me to deploy foswiki on our Ubuntu server. I followed everything in the installation instructions, but when I try to access it, it returns a 404 error
no errors when I try to restart the apache service
but I can't access the site
help?
[11:25]
fsfs404 means apache tries to look in one place, but doesn't find anything there, probably because it is located in another place [11:35]
uebera||tip: retrace your steps. First, you should have seen a static page mentioning some documents/links. Check that you can access this directory (from localhost; from other hosts). [11:35]
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foswiki_irc8ok, now the page just displays a perl script in plain text
afaik, the server already has perl installed
so it should read the script right?
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uebera||If you see the source code, this means that apache does not know that you want to "handle" this using the correct handler (SetHandler directive).
So either you're missing something when you used the https://foswiki.org/Support.ApacheConfigGenerator or there's a problem with your paths.
Having perl installed is required, of course, but apache2 also needs to know how to use it (keywords mod_fcgid, mod_perl).
(NB in 99.9999% of all cases, you do not want to use mod_perl)
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foswiki_irc8ok I changed the config using apacheconfiggenerator from cgi to fastcgi
still the same
should I need to do something with apache?
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uebera||yes... check whether "dpkg --list|grep fcgid" shows libapache2-mod-fcgid. You need this, of course. And if you don't have it, apache normally should be complaining about the SetHandler directive already.
("a2enmod fcgid" makes sure it's active after a restart)
(...of apache2)
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jastdepends on how the config is set up. the default, when using Support.ApacheConfigGenerator, is normal CGI, not FCGI [12:42]
uebera||yes, but he said he switched it in the meantime. [12:56]
jastoh, right. totally missed that. [13:00]
uebera||foswiki_irc8: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/cgi.html has an example how to test the handler, best to use in an isolated directory (not ethat this uses the default CGI; just look at the generated configuration to see the differences between CGI and FCGI). [13:01]
foswiki_irc8will check on it thanks [13:14]
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gac410foswiki_irc8 ... other common causes for seeing sourcecode - Need to enable the "cgid" module - a2enmod cgid [13:58]
jastconfig is already switched to fastcgi [13:58]
gac410er... oops [13:58]
MichaelDaum: uebera||: Started a topic in Community web trying to track what we need to configure for the blog server. [14:03]
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MichaelDaum: are you ready to have us start installing the extensions for the blog, or are there more updates to come? [14:35]
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MichaelDaumhi gac410, no. I still have to update a few plugins. [14:43]
gac410Okay. Anyway, discussion/planning topic at Community/FoswikiOrgBlog ... locked to the infrastructure group - (you are added ;) ) [14:44]
MichaelDaumthx [14:47]
gac410Oh... Did you see Item14274 - just checking ;) [14:50]
FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14274 [ Item14274: Update breaks DBCachePlugin ("Can't use string "xxx" as a HASH ref) ] [14:50]
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MichaelDaumyes thats ClassificationPlugin needing to match DBCachePlugin [14:51]
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gac410MichaelDaum: cdot ... Any thoughts on Cookie Domain? When setting {CookieRealm}, not all cookies we issue use it - StrikeOne does not for ex.
Also not all of our cookies bother with the secure setting. that's inconsistent as well,
zak256: I opened Item14280 for your issue. Not sure if it's really a bug or how to fix it, but at least it needed to be documented.
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14280 [ Item14280: Query search reports syntax errors if formfield name begins with numeric. ] [15:12]
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zak256gac410: Thanks! I will bookmark it. [15:16]
gac410(I wouldn't expect any quick action though. It's a corner case in an area where we don't do much work. ;) ) [15:17]
zak256Yeah, I understand. At least I have a workaround, so it's okay. [15:18]
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berflesCan someone help me with installing Foswiki? I'm running into a problem once I try running the rewriteshebang.pl [17:02]
gac410What platform for your server? [17:02]
berflesI'm actually trying to run it locally on my WIndows 8 system with IIS. I'm thinking that's not exactly ideal? [17:03]
gac410no, We do very little (no?) testing on Windows and definitely nothing on IIS. You might be better off using the Foswiki virtual machine [17:03]
berflesI'm just trying to test it out right now so I thought I could at least get it running locally for now
Would the virtual machine allow me to see how it works and test it?
[17:03]
gac410Yes. It boots a pre-configure foswiki under ubuntu. Big download, but should work directly. It's a vmware vm disk,
Foswiki:Support/VirtualMachineImages
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Support/VirtualMachineImages [ VirtualMachineImages ] [17:05]
berflesCould that be used full time as well or is it more for testing? Just talking ideal setup wise, if it boots a pre configured foswiki it sounds like I could just use it that way for everything? [17:07]
gac410Well, it could be, but for best performance on a live server you'd probably be better off with a dedicated machine.
I have heard of sites using the VM, but it does have limited disk space, so it depends on how big your wiki will get.
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berflesOk, thanks. We're just looking to use it for our IT department to keep a knowledge base so I don't think it will get too large. SHould be enough for us to at least test it out [17:09]
zak256There is no automatic foswiki mechanism to cleanup old Trash or Sandbox topics, is there?
Or old revisions, especially for WebStatistics and so on?
[17:21]
gac410No. Unfortunately. [17:22]
zak256Ok, I think some small script and some cronjobs will do. [17:22]
gac410I think there is a proposal somewhere to fix our "BrainDeadDelete" or something like that :) [17:22]
zak256BrainDeadDelete? [17:23]
gac410For Statistics on foswiki.org, we every January copy the Statistics topics to a StatisticsYYYY and clean out the old stats.
https://foswiki.org/Development/FixDelete
[17:23]
zak256Yes, I guess something like that we will do. Or move it to some "RealTrash" folder or something :)
Sounds good.
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gac410Someplace I had some scripts to help with cleaning all the stats topics on foswiki.org. And I'll bet it was left on the old server :( yup. Nothing like starting over. :P [17:28]
zak256It doesn't matter, this will be at some point in a distant future one of the less time-consuming tasks. [17:29]
foswiki_irc6Hi - for the foswiki VM - Do I need to install apache?
https://foswiki.org/Support/VirtualMachineImages
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gac41014 seconds. [17:54]
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diphuserHello, I'm looking into using foswiki as colaboration medium for my research group, but I'd like to know if our use case is natively supported. We would like to have the wiki be completely private to the registered users with the exception of a few public pages that would be our public facing website that should be viewable, but not editable by anyone. Is foswiki the right for this or is it too much? [20:18]
gac410It has reasonable access controls, so you could probably do something like this.
Hard to say if it's "too much". It is quite powerful, and can have a bit of a learning curve. But simple use is relatively simple to do.
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diphuserif I can set it up nicely with these restrictions, I expect most uses from other people to be simple
as in page creations and text editing to keep track of what's going on and for knowledge sharing
[20:21]
gac410You can register on foswiki.org and get a good feel by looking at how we've implemented some of our webs, as well as try it out in the Sandbox web.
For a quick start, we also have a vmware vm image that can be downloaded.
[20:23]
diphusercool

I'll do just that
thanks (:
[20:24]
gac410yw [20:25]
diphuserplay with it a bit before commiting to have it running on our server [20:25]

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