#foswiki 2017-01-23,Mon

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CloudNineWould anyone with some knowledge of Foswiki's capabilities be able to let me know if Foswiki would be a good candidate for a project I'm working on?
Ultimately, it'd be a collaborative reference manual of sorts.
In simplest terms, my aim would be to set up a page template of some sort that would cover a particular type of aircraft, and that template would have various categories common to aircraft. Then, other folks in the organization (that may not have the slightest knowledge of markup or other web technical stuff), could utilize said template page to add information to easily under those respective categories.
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Naturally, the end result would also be a private, searchable and browse-able reference of proprietary data on various types of aircraft. Just editable, and easily editable in a WYSIWYG fashion. [00:36]
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gac410Damn... I had my speaker muted again. [01:07]
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rouilj [02:16]
gac410hi rouilj [02:17]
rouiljHi not sure why I showed up there.
Doesn't seem like I had anything to say 8-)
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gac410hit enter with focus on wrong window? ;) Been there done that [02:18]
rouiljmaybe.
I was just catching up on reading and went to move the markerline that indicates what I have read. An boom thee I was 8-).
rouilj goes back to lurking.
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gac410see ya. At least now I have my speaker working. Woke me up. [02:19]
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GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to Release02x01: https://git.io/vM7Mb
distro/Release02x01 cb254ff George Clark: Item14287: Fix unit tests for Configure Save...
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GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vM7MN
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GithubBot[distro] MichaelDaum created Item14288 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vM7N9
distro/Item14288 b7bb0c9 MichaelDaum: Item14288: support pluggable edit engines
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RaulFRhello :-) [07:56]
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GithubBot[WikiWorkbenchContrib] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vM5TG
WikiWorkbenchContrib/master 55e9a8b MichaelDaum: Item14289: final version
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GithubBot[BlogPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vM54k
BlogPlugin/master 92a759e MichaelDaum: Item14290: create an importer from WordPress...
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BlogPlugin/master 21ead0a MichaelDaum: Item14290: clean up WebStatistics
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MichaelDaumrelease meeting starts in 12 minutes [12:48]
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gac410hi all ... Release meeting in #foswiki-release .. 6 minutes [12:54]
ping cdot jast RaulFR ... Release Meetiinng [13:01]
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NatSkin/master f9eb2d8 MichaelDaum: Item14292: multiple improvements...
NatSkin/master 8f2a527 MichaelDaum: Item14292: fixed copyright
NatSkin/master 08e7279 MichaelDaum: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:foswiki/NatSkin
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cdotgac410: sorry, got tied up elsewhere. What did I miss? [14:01]
gac410Hi cdot. Release meeting just adjourned. [14:01]
cdoty, I guessed as much [14:02]
gac410I'll post the log in a few moments. Short meeting today. [14:02]
cdotk [14:02]
gac410no new urgent tasks. Moving forward with new blog. Will build 2.1.3 beta 2 soonish
Need it for cookie coordination on the blog, and need the blog to blog about it. Catch22
cdot: Log posted: https://foswiki.org/Development/ReleaseMeeting02x02_20170123
cdot, one interesting thing from last t* release meeting. They approved a new ACL syntax. To allow Topic permissions to ADD to web permissions. rather than override.
So if you want a topic to override ALLOWTOPICVIEW, normally that overrides ALLOWWEBVIEW. (ie if you omit someone who was on the WEBVEIW list, they are blocked from the topic)
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cdothuh? Oh well, guess they have their reasons. [14:08]
vrurggac410: I would add my + to uebera|| note – remove from web perms would be great too. [14:08]
gac410They are going to add ALLOWTOPICVIEW = + user, user user ... which says to add those users to the web permissions for that topic. It does sound like a very useful change
not crazy about that syntax though
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cdotgac410: wasn't there some similar syntax proposed for preferences before?
+= or some such?
cdot vaguely remembers something
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gac410I was trying to find that. But no, that's in macro parameters blah{format= format+= ... [14:25]
cdotthere was discussion about preference values, too. [14:25]
gac410yeah I was trying to find it. I don't think it made it into a release.
I did have a strong deja-vu feeling
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cdotcan't find it either. Maybe I was just misforgetting. [14:28]
GithubBot[StringifierContrib] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vM5Dy
StringifierContrib/master 72b121e MichaelDaum: Item14293: soffice/libreoffice indexer for ppt
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GithubBot[SolrPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vM59u
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gac410cdot: With 2.1.3 overriding the cookie domain and setting secure flags for all https cookies, the impact on a site that is upgrading. Users will lose saved preferences?
I assume I need to make some statement to that effect in the release notes?
gac410 working on how to word it.
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distro/Release02x01 01a2586 George Clark: Item14281: Update releae notes
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gac410A rather simple change to a messages template would be to add %INCLUDE{"WebRestrictions" warn="off"}% to the access_denied template.
This would allow a more detailed description per web, rather than the generic "If you have questions, contact WikiAdmin".
For foswiki.org, it would allow us to explain why we restrict updates on System. We still get the occasional "why can't I change this, you are a wiki afterall" messages.
gac410 thinks it's worth a proposal.
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cdotgood idea
it's not a wiki, it's a wiki-like.
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GithubBot[ListyPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdst
ListyPlugin/master aadc6a0 MichaelDaum: Item14298: new features...
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gac410https://foswiki.org/Development/AddOptionalDescriptionToAccessDeniedTemplate
Hm It might be best to use a separate topic from WebPreferences. If the web is view restricted, then WebPreferences is probably restricted as well. Or maybe a list?
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This works fine: %INCLUDE{"WebPreferences,WebRestrictions" section="ACLDescription" warn="off"}% [17:44]
GithubBot[WorkflowPlugin] cdot pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdcs
WorkflowPlugin/master 44655d6 cdot: Item14210: update version number, and fix a bad regex from 14048 patch
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14210 [ Item14210: Support re-notification when a topic is stuck in a state ] [17:58]
gac410cdot ... Do you have any idea why we occasionally get a red (!) stuck on the Extensions operations tab, with no obvious errors, even after restarting configure. [18:00]
cdotno... to debug, look at the report JSON. There should be a command-line that will generate it..... [18:01]
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gac410cdot. I just refreshed configure with Firebug active. and am digging through all the json post/responses But I have no idea what I'm looking for. [18:19]
cdotthere should be an error status somewhere, associated with the thing that errored [18:28]
gac410Okay. We have errors about unsaved Plugins / Modules that are not showing up in the UI, and the save button is greyed out.
LikePlugin and SolrPlugin. Seem to be invisible.
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GithubBot[WorkflowPlugin] cdot pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdR4
WorkflowPlugin/master 147f214 cdot: Item14210: correct typo
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GithubBot[BlogPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdEi
BlogPlugin/master c9a4547 MichaelDaum: Item14299: don't depend on SolrPlugin
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14299 [ Item14299: don't try to render similar topics in the sidebar without SolrPlugin being installed ] [18:48]
gac410So this is really strange cdot. *something* makes configure think that SolrPlugin has an Enabled setting. But it is definitely NOT installed.
There are a few places where plugins do: lib/Foswiki/Plugins/MetaCommentPlugin.pm:  if ($Foswiki::cfg{Plugins}{SolrPlugin}{Enabled}) ...
That can't cause an entry in a hash can it. Those are the *only* references to SolrPlugin that I can find.
Well cdot. That's the cause. Checking if ($Foswiki::cfg{Plugins}{SolrPlugin}{Enabled}) creates an empty {Plugins}{SolrPlugin} in the hash and configure goes bananas.
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GithubBot[ClassificationPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdai
ClassificationPlugin/master 1052be2 MichaelDaum: Item14300: fix testing for SolrPlugin
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GithubBot[LikePlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMdVG
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gac410hi all... I'm going to make some configuration changes on foswiki.org to the cookie configuration - you might end up having to log in again. [23:53]

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