#foswiki 2017-01-25,Wed

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gac410foswiki,org web is going to go down for a few moments while I install the new beta. [00:31]
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GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMACk
distro/master d97fe65 George Clark: Merge branch 'Release02x01'
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GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMAC3
distro/master 2f44286 George Clark: Item14301: Merge branch 'Item14301'
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14301 [ Item14301: Implement ConfigurableCookieNamesAndPaths ] [01:21]
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gac410Hi all... I merged Item14301 into master. trunk.foswiki.org is now using a different cookie ID and is working fine.
FoswikiBot: help
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FoswikiBotgac410: Ask me for help about: auth, google, foswiki, corelist, vars, infobot, assemble, dns, join, weather, loader, seen, karma (say 'help <modulename>'). [01:44]
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GithubBot[AntiWikiSpamPlugin] gac410 tagged 1.93 at 5774c94: https://git.io/vMAuL [03:17]
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GithubBot[distro] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to Item14288: https://git.io/vMAX2
distro/Item14288 ef73e01 MichaelDaum: Merge branch 'master' into Item14288
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14288 [ Item14288: rewrite to support pluggable edit engines ] [07:13]
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MichaelDaum changes topic to: Foswiki.org now running 2.1.3 Beta 1! Logs: http://irclogs.foswiki.org/bin/irclogger_log/foswiki - Slack: https://foswiki-slackin.herokuapp.com/ - Bugs: https://foswiki.org/Tasks - Next up: Release meeting Monday 6th Feb 2017, 1300Z [07:22]
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GithubBot[NatSkin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMAHj
NatSkin/master 4f0e946 MichaelDaum: Item14302: improved impl of broadcast twisty...
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14302 [ Item14302: NatSkin uses a different cookie for the broadcast twisty, inconsistent with core. ] [08:36]
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GithubBot[MoreFormfieldsPlugin] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMxne
MoreFormfieldsPlugin/master 8fb199a MichaelDaum: Item14303: fixes to topic formfield...
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14303 [ Item14303: topic formfield does not store web.topic values ] [13:10]
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GithubBot[PublishPlugin] Lynnwood pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMxzZ
PublishPlugin/master 37c253d Lynnwood Brown: Item14198: Fixing version, release, author and task links
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14198 [ Item14198: PublishPlugin fails in Foswiki 2.1.2 while trying to render zones ] [14:33]
MichaelDaumcan I remove the "Unable to install TinyMCE: could not read "TINYMCEPLUGIN_INIT" from init parameters" please [14:42]
gac410Hi Lynnwood ... btw I was working on check_extensions.pl ... hopefully I'll have a version that works for extensions - mostly working now. Just needs more cleanup
MichaelDaum: ... where do you see "Unable to install TinyMCE ..
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MichaelDaumpub/System/TinyMCEPlugin/foswiki_tiny.uncompressed.js ... am about to describe the issue in a task item
https://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14305
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gac410I do occasionally run into that particular message on sites where I've messed up something in the install. ... I've never figured out what puts the holes in my feet on that one.
I've gone nuts / spent hours trying to debug that error. Finally reinstalled and it went away.
On Item14305 I've run into that error as a legitimate error where the editor just fails to init. No popup though, it just always goes into text edit. so never mind.
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14305 [ Item14305: eliminate sporadic alert() by tinymce ] [14:51]
MichaelDaumyea lemme dig this alert() out [14:52]
***gac410 changes topic to: Foswiki.org now running 2.1.3 Beta 2! Logs: http://irclogs.foswiki.org/bin/irclogger_log/foswiki - Slack: https://foswiki-slackin.herokuapp.com/ - Bugs: https://foswiki.org/Tasks - Next up: Release meeting Monday 6th Feb 2017, 1300Z [15:01]
GithubBot[distro] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to Release02x01: https://git.io/vMxo8
distro/Release02x01 60be6e2 MichaelDaum: Item14305: eliminate sporadic alert() by tinymce...
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gac410MichaelDaum: Is that one siginficate enough we should skip beta2 and release a Beta 3 :( [15:02]
GithubBot[distro] MichaelDaum pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMxKO
distro/master e8716ea MichaelDaum: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/Release02x01'
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Lynnwoodthis is cool: highcharts has created a editor: http://www.highcharts.com/news/240-announcing-the-free-embedable-highcharts-editor
I've just been doing a project using highcharts to create charts about a foswiki installation. It really is a great product.
Free for non-profits and personal sites. For commercial sites, it requires license which is fairly reasonably priced.
Does anyone think packaging this as new charting option for Foswiki would be useful?
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gac410Sure. looks very nice.
Needs a plugin to post the chart to a topic I guess. Similar to WikiDraw ... though that's busted on 2.x and I've been unable to figure it out. :(
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The Foswiki Blog is back and running, better than ever. Running on foswiki, but using NatSkin with all its bells and whistles
https://blog.foswiki.org
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fsfsnice! [16:12]
gac410Shared authentication with foswiki.org. Common Main web ... SSO for both. [16:13]
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MichaelDaum: If we can get the Blog and Email for 2.1.3 Beta 2 out today or tomorrow. Let's plan a 2-week beta, then an RC for 48 hours, followed by Release of 2.1.3 [16:39]
GithubBot[distro] gac410 pushed 1 new commit to Release02x01: https://git.io/vMxhW
distro/Release02x01 bb6bfeb George Clark: Item13883: Fix permissions on 3 pub files...
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13883 [ Item13883: Documentation changes for master and 2.1 ] [16:43]
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LynnwoodHmmmm. I'm getting some major errors when running a Plugin report in configure. [19:19]
gac410InstalledPlugins you mean?
What release?
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Lynnwoodyes, "review installed extensions" [19:19]
gac410Oh... hm what types of errors? [19:20]
Lynnwoodrelease: 2.1.2
let me open it up again...
"Failure processing response from the repository search: 2-Failed to eval $VERSION from our $RELEASE = $VERSION;"
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gac410Ah... some extension doesn't have a numeric string I'll bet [19:21]
LynnwoodThis is followed by quite a bit of info on a series of plugins. [19:21]
gac410Did you recently install a plugin? [19:22]
Lynnwoody, as a matter of fact I did this morning... and it worked then. [19:22]
gac410what extensions are new?
PublishPlugin module looks fine.
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LynnwoodThe one I installed this morning was GlobalReplacePlugin. [19:23]
gac410Y that one needs to be rebuild. our $VERSION = '$Rev$'; our $RELEASE = $VERSION; [19:24]
LynnwoodSo could the fact that it's broken in my install be the cause of the error now in configure?
I could take on cleaning that up and re-publishing.
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gac410The generated code is our $VERSION = '$Rev: 2960 (2009-03-10) $'; But really configure shold not crash - maybe gag a bit, but not barf :D
Yeah I've recreated it. Damn. Another urgent bug.
Configure really needs to tolerate the older extensions
the JSON string actually returns: { "name":"GlobalReplacePlugin", "description":"Global search and replace functionality across all topics in a web", "compatibility": "Tested on Foswiki 1.0", "classification": "Admin, Information structuring and Search", "version":" 2960 (2009-03-10) ", "release":"" },
Not sure if the error is being reported in javascript or in perl.
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Lynnwoodok, i just went in and manually edited the Release and Version values in GlobalReplacePlugin.pm and at least the "installed plugins" report works. [19:33]
gac410Probably ought to figure out where the eval is being trapped and try to treat it in a kinder / gentler manner [19:33]
LynnwoodI noticed the release value set to $VERSION. [19:33]
gac410Maybe later. I really do need to run out. [19:34]
Lynnwoodno problem.
I will plan on fixing that plugin. I had to do some clean-up on it locally anyway to get it to work correctly.
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gac410Nothing wrong with release and version set to the same thing I don't think. I suspect part of the issue is core declares VERSION as a formal perl object, and it really needs to be a valid format. But we could check. There are a lot of others in the same boat. [19:35]
LynnwoodSo configure appears to compare the Release value to determine if new version is available... [19:38]
gac410It tries to use both version and release iirc. Trying to come up with a sane comparison with the absolute chaos built over time is tough. We obviously missed a case ;) [19:38]
LynnwoodIt failed to see that PublishPlugin has new release. [19:39]
gac410Its handled in lib/Foswiki/Configure/Dependency ... see test/unit/DependencyTests.pm for an idea of what it tries to compare. [19:40]
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LynnwoodVery strange.... I updated PluginPlugin on a site and it appeared that it went smoothly. But the PublishPlugin topic is not the new version.
I went back and checked the zip and tgz archives on Foswiki.org and they both contain the correct new version.
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gac410I've seen that happen. For one, if you are using the cache, be sure the flush the cache after any server upgrades. [19:58]
Lynnwoodah... perhaps...
actually... no, i don't have cache enabled on the site...
wierd...
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gac410damn. yeah we had this with one plugin on foswiki.org for a very long time. We pulled hair and I don't think we ever figured it out. MultiTopicSavePlugin iirc
Installed from shell, installed from web, no matter what the old version was just stuck. ... and suddenly it became unstuck. Maddening
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LynnwoodCould it be a permissions issue? [20:36]
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gac410Hi Lynnwood stepped out for a bit. I don't think so - extensions installer runs as admin, but tbh I would not eliminate anything. We spent many hours days trying to figure it out and didn't get anywhere.
It was tough because it was failing on our live prod site and was working fine in test environments.
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gac410Lynnwood: opened Item14308 for the Dependency related crash. Simple fix. [22:24]
FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item14308 [ Item14308: Configure extensions review crashes if plugin module uses "$RELEASE = $VERSION". ] [22:24]

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