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foswiki_irc5Is there a widely accepted "best" flavor of Linux to use for installing foswiki? [15:12]
gac410That's a really tough question. So much of the decision in a linux distribution depends on what you are familiar with, or those who will be helping you are familiar with.
I've not heard of any distros that won't work. It might be a bit harder to get the perl packages on Centos / RedHat family. They tend to stay a bit further behind some of the others I suspect.
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foswiki_irc5Unfortunately I won't really be having anyone helping me and I've never really used Linux other than some that I booted off a flash drive so I may be in a bit over my head it sounds like [15:16]
gac410The Foswiki Virtual Machine image is installed with Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS - That's also what we use on Foswiki.org
LTS = Long Term Support ...
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foswiki_irc5Thank you, I will research that a bit. I'm sure I'll be here quite a bit with questions [15:18]
gac410good luck [15:19]
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LynnwoodDoes anyone know: when you run the tools/dependencies script, is it suppose to refer to /bin/LocalLib.cfg for additional perl library paths?
Related to that... am I correct that configure no longer provides any information regarding included perl library paths?
(I can seem to find any info)
I'm trying to figure whether custom perl library paths are being included or not...
ah... i did find System.PerlDependencyReport
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foswiki_irc5The PC I'm trying to install this on is too old for Ubuntu 16.04. Great.
Guess that's what happens when you try to use leftovers
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LynnwoodTo answer my earlier questions (should anyone else be curious): tools/dependencies _does_ refer to perl library paths added to bin/LocalLib.cfg.
(once i figured how to add those paths correctly)
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gac410Lynnwood: (just got back). tools/dependencies and PerlDependencyReport use the same code under the covers. [20:03]
Lynnwoodok
thanks
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gac410Also see System.FoswikiServerInformation for the rest of the stuff that configure used to report. [20:03]
Lynnwoodmy real issue was figuring the correct way to list paths for @localPerlLibPath...
or what paths had to be included...
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gac410And a handy one to remember is tools/configure -check That runs all the configuration checkers.
Y, getting the stuff into the LocalLib is confusing. I almost never have used it.
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LynnwoodI don't understand why ...lib/perl5 does also imply including ...lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi but apparently it doesn't. [20:05]
gac410FoswikiServerInformation shows you exactly what's in the perl @INC path, and will also show every loaded module and where it was found. [20:07]
MichaelCarpenterGood Day. Is anyone available to help me with an installation issue? [20:09]
gac410Ask, we'll give it a try [20:10]
MichaelCarpenterThanks. I am trying to install 2.1.3 Upon trying to bootstrap, I get a 500 error. Apache reports back that "End of script output before headers: view" [20:11]
gac410Probably critical missing dependencies. or maybe file permissions, etc.
Did you review the Foswiki:System.SystemRequirements
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/System.SystemRequirements [ SystemRequirements ] [20:12]
gac410What platform are you installing on? [20:13]
MichaelCarpenterYes I did. Permissions are correct apache:apache I did have a problem installing a couple of PERL modules. Installed on Centos 7
Modules not found
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gac410y Centos can be painful. They have a pretty narrow view of what modules to have available.
Also check if you have the SELinux enforcement turned on. That might block execution of stuff.
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MichaelCarpenterI'm a Ubuntu fan, but my boss wanted me to use Centos.
SELinux is set to minimum.
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gac410I'd suggest completely disabling it at least to get started. You have no other errors reported other than end of script output? [20:15]
MichaelCarpenterSo far.. [20:17]
gac410How did you build your apache configuration?
Foswiki:Support.ApacheConfigGenerator?
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FoswikiBothttps://foswiki.org/Support.ApacheConfigGenerator? [ ApacheConfigGenerator ] [20:18]
gac410I'd go back to that, and try configuring it with plain old CGI to start. In Apache, make sure that mod_rewrite, mod_cgid are both enabled ... (no idea how to do that on centos) :( [20:19]
MichaelCarpenterBasically used the defaults. Not sure I actually changed anything except to verify I was using FOSwiki 2.0 and Apache 2.4
Just talked to the boss. Looks like I can try Ubuntu or Fedora. Is one better than the other for this?
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gac410hm okay, defaults should be cgi. usually though end of script output I see that more often with fcgi
Fedora and Centos are similar. I'd suggest ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS but really either Centos or Fedora ought to be able to work.
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MichaelCarpenterI'm more comfortable with Ubuntu, so I'll restart there rather than trying to get this to work. Thanks for the help [20:21]
gac410Sorry we weren't successful. [20:22]
MichaelCarpenterNo problem. Just a couple of hours into this. Not much wasted at all. [20:22]
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LynnwoodLynnwood is wondering why distribution no longer includes a template htaccess file for pub directory...
If i recall, the only purpose of the one that used to be included was to disable directory indexes.
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