#foswiki 2017-03-06,Mon

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gac410Hi everyone. Time for release meeting. Damn. Just noticed the channel message shows 20 Feb.. Not 6 March. :( [13:00]
***gac410 changes topic to: Download: https://foswiki.org/Download/FoswikiRelease02x01x03 Logs: http://irclogs.foswiki.org/bin/irclogger_log/foswiki - Slack: https://foswiki-slackin.herokuapp.com/ - Bugs: https://foswiki.org/Tasks - Next Release meeting Monday 6 Mar 2017, 1300Z [13:01]
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vrurggac410: nobody came for the meeting today? [13:46]
gac410Hi Vrurg, I guess not. I mentioned it here, you're the first response. Didn't help that I forgot to change the /topic for the channel. [13:46]
vrurgI just knew the date. Overslept though... [13:47]
gac410y, it's tough to get up for the meeting. Can't wait until daylight savings to kick in. Fortunately I have to take the trash out early Monday or I'd never make it. [13:48]
vrurgI take the trash out the day before, doesn't help me. ;) Anyway, I recently wrote a message you didn't see. Do you know that latest versions of Net::SMTP support SSL/TLS and we don't need the complicated wrapper code anymore? [13:50]
gac410Actually yes I did see that. Unfortunately distros are so far far behind, we can't really depend on that for awhile.
I meant to say something I did look over the class a bit too.
Our "discovery" code does do some handy things - sets up the CA Certs, port discovery, etc.
Would be nice though to clean up the wrapper for sure.
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vrurg"Discovery" is a separate thing and it is necessary anyway. I only meant the related wrapper in Net.pm [13:53]
gac410y. But still... until the distros catch up :( [13:53]
vrurgOk, lets see if distros would catch up any time soon.
Actually, my own macbook lags behind too.
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gac410though complex, our wrapper does seem to work fine, and doesn't have any deps on the horribly broken Net:SMTP::SSL Net::SMTP::TLS, Net::SMTP::TLS::ReallyMaintained .. etc
Thankfully neither does the new Net::SMPT
anyway, many sites probably have a configured mail daemon on their host, and don't need the Net:: module at all.
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vrurgActually this is how I found out – FreeBSD ports started complaining about obsolence of Net::SMTP::SSL package. As to the daemon – I always install postfix regardless of whether the host is supposed to receive mails – and use it for deliveries. But still prefer SMTP over it. [14:00]
gac410the SSMPT package (simple ssmpt?) works pretty well for deliveries and avoids the more complex agent requirements [14:01]
vrurgMy approach is to be on the uniformity side. On each and every my server I just know what to expect. Otherwise have no preferences. [14:03]

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