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SuperBockhello
i hope everyone had a nice xmas ;)
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pharveyindeed
pharvey has a new r/c heli :D
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SuperBocksounds like fun :)
at the office we have lots a fun shooting heli's with NERF's :)
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pharveyHmmm I'm not sure they'd appreciate helis at my work
but I know I would
pharvey needs to save for a decent outdoor heli
Actually the one I got is not too bad, only 3 channel but flies better than my old 4ch, even in (very light) wind
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SuperBockthis ones cost like 15Eur, as long as they're kept out of eyes, don't hurt [01:58]
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DanielKownackihi all [09:45]
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DanielKownackiI reinstalled the foswiki using debian packages and now natskin doesn't work - i get the dreaded %JQREQUIRE{"superfish"}% %JQREQUIRE{"supersubs"} .... messages
i installed natskin from apt-get, went through configure, no clue
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pharveyDanielKownacki: sounds like JQueryPlugin is not enabled
ensure it's up to date as well.
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DanielKownackiit's enabled, and newest from apt-get
hmm, although when viewing JQueryPlugin topic in system, no plugins are visible
I think I got it - it was configured as TWiki:Plugins in Localsite
strange, maybe debian package bug?
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pharveyDanielKownacki: I helped another user through this problem several moons ago... The user had been upgrading his Foswiki from a very early revision, and I think at one point JQueryPlugin had TWiki::Namespace, early in 2009 perhaps.
so not a debian package bug
just an ungraceful upgrade path in JQueryPlugin itself, I think, but I haven't tracked it down
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DanielKownackipharvey: yeah, this is similar situation
I've scrapped all old Twiki plugins
JQuery works fine - but NatSkin doesn't - displays no CSS, no graphics :(
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pharveydo you have latest FamFamFamContrib? [10:59]
DanielKownackilemme check [11:00]
pharveyhmmm well you need css to work anyway
ah, DanielKownacki: BlueTheme (?) has been deprecated
Check what theme you have configured, JazzyNoteTheme is the new default
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DanielKownackiok [11:01]
pharveyI assume your NatSkinPlugin is up to date too [11:01]
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DanielKownackiall seems to be new
how to switch to Jazzy?
NatSkinStyleBrowser shows base style
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pharveyThere should also be jazzynote style [11:32]
hmmm.
The latest released version has no jazzynote style.
But it does in svn.
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DanielKownacki:D [11:39]
pharveypharvey builds a release [11:39]
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DanielKownackiaaand there he went [11:40]
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DanielKownackihmmm -> http://foswiki.org/Support/Question360 [11:49]
pharveythis problem was masked from me, because I have a custom skin theme on our production site. [11:50]
DanielKownackipharvey: anything I can do? [11:55]
pharveyThere is a work-around mentioned in the support question. I think the MANIFEST file might be wrong. The author of NatSkin is on holiday, so I can't upload a fixed release that you could install via apt or configure.
I could upload a new build to http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item2539 from which you could download and install manually.
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DanielKownackiit's not so urgent, i'll wait for an update
for now pattern is ok
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pharveyCool. [11:59]
DanielKownackiThank you for your help - it's good it turned out I'm not complete moron ;) [12:00]
pharveyIt's one of those cases where testing from svn isn't good enough. I've been meaning to get a vanilla 1.0.8 test instance running.
It took all of 90 seconds, I think.
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DanielKownackithanks again, take care [12:29]
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pharveyLavr_: Ping
argh, brb
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pharveypharvey wonders why his WinXP is telling him is password going to expire :/
I am having trouble believing there are no bugs filed on sf.net for IE6 being unable to apply formats in TinyMCE
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http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/full.php
If anybody has 30 seconds... fire up IE6 and try to apply a heading format to any text
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Lavr_pharvey pong.
I will give it a try. Changing machine. I have IE6 on a virtual box on another computer
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pharveyHi Lavr. I finally closed that formats bug. But no dice in IE6 still. And I can't see an existing bug on sf.net
I'm submitting a bug now, but would like to confirm my observation at that moxiecode demo URL
my IE6 is pretty well pimped with all sorts of dev crap and obnoxious Canon/Adobe/@#$@# toolbar things.
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LavrJust tried with IE6 on that demo site
I can apply e.g. Heading 1
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pharveyDamn
What version of IE6 do you have?
Also, I uploaded a new release of TinyMCEPlugin. Could you please try it out in your copy of IE6?
I made some changes that makes it work for Chrome and Safari
maybe my IE6 is just borked
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LavrI just tried with current Release branch code. With IE6 I can apply Heading 1 to some text. And I can put it back to normal [13:03]
pharveyExcellent.
pharvey is massively confused about his spooked IE6
these sorts of bugs waste so much time
Lavr: What's your full IE6 version string?
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LavrDammed that you cannot copy paste that string [13:07]
pharveywhatsmyuseragent.com [13:07]
Lavr6.0.2900.5512.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804_1435 [13:07]
pharveyis that vista? [13:08]
LavrNo. XP
Your User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
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pharveyHm. [13:10]
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pharveyLavr: Do you have a special VM where you have not upgraded IE beyond 6.0? [13:11]
LavrYes. I have a VirtualBox machine I made so I could run some programs under XP. My host is a Windows 7.
And I kept the IE at 6 so I could test with IE6.
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pharveyRight. I thought I was being smart using IECollections, which allows you to run every IE version from 1.x to 8 simultaneously
but it hasn't got the latest 6.0 release bundled
Thanks for testing.
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Aliasheh
It would appear that the real Ohloh competition isn't between Foswiki and Twiki, it's between Foswiki and Padre
http://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?metric=Contributors&project_0=TWiki&project_1=Foswiki&project_2=Padre
;)
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pharveySven is an avid user I believe
and I just checked, he's made 17 commits too
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AliasOf course :)
I recruited him :)
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AliasI notice it's been mentioned that Twiki can basically just steal all your fixes
Has anyone applied any spoilers for that?
PerlTidy etc
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SuperBockI'm getting an annoying behavior, which I don't think i had with 1.0.7.. I redirect / to /Home/WebHome, but I've setup the wiki to not allow guests, so it always asks for authentication. Problem is, after authentication I'm always sent to /Main/WebHome.... If I'm already authenticating, going to / redirects nicely to /Home. Any hints about this?
s/authentication/authenticated/
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foswiki_irc9Hi, I've been experimenting with the set up of Foswiki, but I think I've misunderstood something somewhere. It looks like to change the background colour of the Sandbox from light blue to red, you just go to Sandbox/WebPreferences and change Set WEBBGCOLOR = #B9DAFF to Set WEBBGCOLOR = #FF0000. (And save it.) It doesn't work. What's gone wrong? [19:33]
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foswiki_irc9Is there anybody out there? It was intended as a serious question. We've been trying to set this up for eight or nine months now. It seems OK if you just accept the standard structure and create a few topics. However, this is the fourth or fifth time I've studied the documentation and tried to make some simple changes with a view to customising it for our company. I can't get it to do the simplest thing. [20:11]
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gmcEugenMayer: i have a german phone number already! [20:45]
ArthurClemenswas? bist du umgezogen?
wo lebst du denn jetzt?
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gmcArthurClemens: :)
amnow in berlin for 26c3 and nye
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ArthurClemenswhat are these? [21:20]
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pharveyfoswiki_irc9: In case you read logs, please detail exactly how you go about changing the WEBBGCOLOR. I just tried it in 1.0.8 and what will become 1.0.9 with the WYSIWYG editor, and it seems to work fine for me.
Perhaps there is some misunderstanding about what the WEBBGCOLOR does: actually, it only changes the icon colour in the weblist, not the actual page background. For that, you must use some CSS.
In your Main.SitePreferences, you should add a Set USERCOLORSURL = /url/to/some/colors.css
Check System.PatternSkin
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GilmarSantosJrhello guys [23:10]
pharveyhowdy [23:16]
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